Edit: I’ll note that almost every reply here is just insulting me.
Edit2: Still not a single serious answer.
Edit3: Near as I can tell everyone calling me names, insulting me, avoiding the question, and voting me down are very upset that I’ve exposed the fact that they would, in fact, dial 911 in such a circumstance. And knowing that makes them deeply uncomfortable. And being unable to come to grips with that feeling they just lash out like children instead.
Clearly, not the cops. They have proven they wont help. They dont even have a legal duty to help. They will in fact prevent bystanders from helping, if you remember uvalde.
You’re on your own. I’ve got some friends who might help, might not.
I may also call 911, because that is the number to reach medics quickly, and id like them to already be on the way if i get caught trying to stop the shooter, but knowing it’s also attached to police has deterred me in the past. Not in a school shooter situation, but when i needed a medic.
Given the ridiculous and insulting responses before this it’s remarkable that you’ve somehow come up with the absolute stupidest response of the thread. Congrats I guess?
Granted, this is one situation where the police got the guy, but once on the scene they also waited about an hour for things to die down (pun intended) before entering
One of them was also a dad who got a personal call from its kid who was inside and decided to try to go in. They stopped it. Presumably at gun point, because how the fuck else would you do that?
Jokes aside, this is a disgusting play at people’s emotions
Are you for real? This happens and all the ACAB people in here have zero answers for who they would call in this situation other than “ha ha ha not the cops they just do nothing”. Y’all aren’t serious and don’t deserve to be treated seriously.
It’s all they’re for. Which is why they sit around uselessly while shooters murder children. Look at the surnames of most of the victims in Uvalde to see why the pigs were outside doing fucking nothing.
What do you do if you’re being tortured to death? Nothing, you can’t, of course lol. Minimizing it with peer reviewed policy is our only tool. Voting for the party doing that is our only individual lever.
You can say you don’t like the question but there are hundreds of school shootings a year. It’s not a hypothetical. What is the ACAB crowd’s answer for what people should do in these cases? Just… wait?
No. You call the police immediately, set up a cordon, and make absolutely sure nobody will be able to help, even if someone does have a friend or loved one to call.
It’s weird how boot lickers never cite any of the problems police are known to help with. You always say ‘yeah, but who will help you with your neurology exams?’ Or some shit.
The cops are an imaginary security blanket, they’re theatrical. They provide no actual security. I don’t like that you want to risk me being beaten kidnapped or murdered for your fucking security blanket.
Your question doesn’t make any sense. Your original question was in response to someone saying they don’t call the cops in their house.
I took it to be a “In this house we obey the laws of physics” type expression. If not then I’m yet to be corrected by the original commenter.
That may be why you’re not getting “serious” answers, because you didn’t ask a serious question, even if you thought you did.
I mean… I did. Just none of them would actually say it or even provide an alternative. I’d happily accept an alternative if they could provide one. They love to say “don’t call the cops” and it’s utter bullshit. They apparently don’t like having their bullshit exposed either.
911, and ideally they would alert a tactical response team with a negotiator to get on a helicopter while they gather details and form a plan in transit that would reflect their training for these situations. Have four of these teams in each state. police cordon off the area and monitor the situation to keep the team updated while they are in transit and to watch the entrances and exits while the staff that were already in the building, including resource officers, would be doing what they could to get people away or get them to the safest place they can. Police force as an intervention would be a last resort scenario, as escalation in these situations will only guarantee more dead. The police have no obligation to protect or serve under the current laws, they are not required to do fuck all, they should not be the people you expect to save or help you, they only exist at this point to punish you and bind you.
Congrats! You win a prize for offering the first actual answer to the question without simply attacking me for my perceived biases. 🏆
In most mass shootings I doubt negotiation is going to get very far - and the delay may cause more deaths. Many times the perpetrator simply commits suicide. These are folks who have hit ‘fuck it’ and are looking to end it all and cause a lot of damage on the way out. Often by the time police are even able to respond they’ve done most of the damage they will do already.
Your trophy is taken back. Sorry - I thought you were serious.
You’re right, there is no perfect answer so we should just do nothing and allow the cops to do whatever the fuck they want and give them immunity for everything.
Where did you get this from? I genuinely don’t understand the childish level of anger I’m getting for asking a legitimate question. When people say “never call the cops” they neglect to say what one should do instead. Just hide in a corner and wait for inevitable death?
Go fuck yourself you stagnant kowtowing twat.
Kowtowing to WHO??? Are you people crazy or something?
I’m gonna single you out since you gave the most coherent response at some point and hope you can talk like an adult for a moment (an assumption I’m making since you’re probably like 13).
As always, ACAB.
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So who do you call when a shooter is in a school?
Edit: I’ll note that almost every reply here is just insulting me.
Edit2: Still not a single serious answer.
Edit3: Near as I can tell everyone calling me names, insulting me, avoiding the question, and voting me down are very upset that I’ve exposed the fact that they would, in fact, dial 911 in such a circumstance. And knowing that makes them deeply uncomfortable. And being unable to come to grips with that feeling they just lash out like children instead.
Clearly, not the cops. They have proven they wont help. They dont even have a legal duty to help. They will in fact prevent bystanders from helping, if you remember uvalde.
You’re on your own. I’ve got some friends who might help, might not.
I may also call 911, because that is the number to reach medics quickly, and id like them to already be on the way if i get caught trying to stop the shooter, but knowing it’s also attached to police has deterred me in the past. Not in a school shooter situation, but when i needed a medic.
Seriously? Look up Uvalde and see what they (didn’t) do
He sure loves ignoring actual answers and whining about how his bootlicking isn’t as welcome on lemmy as it is back on nazi digg.
Or Parkland.
Are you conflating necessity with choice? It’s not like there’s anyone else to call, even if you aren’t expecting anything positive to happen.
I’d call the shooter, as they’re statistically more likely to stop themselves than the police
Given the ridiculous and insulting responses before this it’s remarkable that you’ve somehow come up with the absolute stupidest response of the thread. Congrats I guess?
Nope, that’s still you, boot licker.
Okay, how about I call the parents of the students, who might do something to help provided the police aren’t already there to prevent them from doing so
Granted, this is one situation where the police got the guy, but once on the scene they also waited about an hour for things to die down (pun intended) before entering
Wasn’t there that story about your police literally waiting outside the school?
Let’s be honest, your police system is fucked.
You need a proffessionally trained force like us over in europe.
To be fair, they weren’t just waiting.
One of them was also a dad who got a personal call from its kid who was inside and decided to try to go in. They stopped it. Presumably at gun point, because how the fuck else would you do that?
They didn’t just wait outside the school. They also prevented others from helping!
Also, I remember one incident where they took credit when someone else did step in.
And when a mom DID run inside and rescue her daughter, the local police harassed her for months and threatened to charge her with crimes.
… That is, until there was social media outage about her charges.
ACAB includes European cops. Your shit stinks too.
To be fwir, it does stink less.
Like how vegan poop is 20% less smelly than carnivore poop.
Still no answer…
Why call the cops? They might keep you out when you could be entering to save your kid?
Why would you invite more shooters to kill innocent people?
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Are you for real? This happens and all the ACAB people in here have zero answers for who they would call in this situation other than “ha ha ha not the cops they just do nothing”. Y’all aren’t serious and don’t deserve to be treated seriously.
Cops exist to murder unarmed minorities.
It’s all they’re for. Which is why they sit around uselessly while shooters murder children. Look at the surnames of most of the victims in Uvalde to see why the pigs were outside doing fucking nothing.
They exist to protect the capital of the wealthy. Murdering minorities without being held accountable is just one of the perks borne from that.
That’s just how we do lynchings now
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What do you do if you’re being tortured to death? Nothing, you can’t, of course lol. Minimizing it with peer reviewed policy is our only tool. Voting for the party doing that is our only individual lever.
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I’d like to see it dip below -100.
I just made it -102. We did it!
I’m at a point in my life where I don’t justify my opinion based on ideologues on lemmy. Thanks for the concern though.
Tap for spoiler
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To be fair, americans do need to kill some of our children. It’s an R strategist thing; you wouldn’t understand.
Mqy as well use the dead, at least for crass necropolitics, if we’re not gonna eat em.
Too bad. It should be all of them.
Still no answer…
You are not owed participation on your terms.
Fair - but you still have no answer.
My answer is that pigs are worthless at anything but murdering minorities and that’s why you love them.
Still attacking me, and no answer.
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You can say you don’t like the question but there are hundreds of school shootings a year. It’s not a hypothetical. What is the ACAB crowd’s answer for what people should do in these cases? Just… wait?
No. You call the police immediately, set up a cordon, and make absolutely sure nobody will be able to help, even if someone does have a friend or loved one to call.
It’s weird how boot lickers never cite any of the problems police are known to help with. You always say ‘yeah, but who will help you with your neurology exams?’ Or some shit.
The cops are an imaginary security blanket, they’re theatrical. They provide no actual security. I don’t like that you want to risk me being beaten kidnapped or murdered for your fucking security blanket.
Why would you phrase it like that? Surely you know about the cops waiting in Uvalde.
Also - you do know that despite the aweful response the cops did actually eventually kill the shooter right?
So… Don’t call the cops gets you… What exactly? Basically the same thing but the shooter is allowed to just continue without any resistance?
I’m being serious even though I know you aren’t.
Your question doesn’t make any sense. Your original question was in response to someone saying they don’t call the cops in their house.
So to the question of what they do when there’s violence at a school, the obvious answer is: they call the cops.
You reiterated your question asking what the “ACAB crowd” would do. Again the answer is obvious: they call the bastards.
That may be why you’re not getting “serious” answers, because you didn’t ask a serious question, even if you thought you did.
I took it to be a “In this house we obey the laws of physics” type expression. If not then I’m yet to be corrected by the original commenter.
I mean… I did. Just none of them would actually say it or even provide an alternative. I’d happily accept an alternative if they could provide one. They love to say “don’t call the cops” and it’s utter bullshit. They apparently don’t like having their bullshit exposed either.
Still. No. Answer.
You will accept no answer that disagrees with your bootlicking.
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Still no answer…
The cops seem to be doing such a bang up job in preventing it, we should probably just apply more police
Still no answer.
I said we should use policing, I guess cops aren’t a valid answer then.
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lol I already have you tagged as bootlicker. Probably just block you at this point.
How do you tag someone
just block him. You’re not going to chnge his mind, no need to cause a scene here.
On Connect for Android, it’s under the comment’s three-dot menu. It’s called “add user note”.
I got you. I tag anyone who blindly calls me a “bootlicker”.
Aaaaand blocked.
No, they’re not. We all know you’re getting the reaction you wanted and expected. Stop playing the victim.
Still no answer…
We all know you never wanted one.
I did, actually. I’ve responded to the one person who actually replied without calling me an idiot. What the fuck do you think I want? Why u so mad?
You’re a fucking moron
Still no answer.
Here’s a question for you: Do you still molest children? It’s a yes or no question.
As if you don’t know the answer.
911, and ideally they would alert a tactical response team with a negotiator to get on a helicopter while they gather details and form a plan in transit that would reflect their training for these situations. Have four of these teams in each state. police cordon off the area and monitor the situation to keep the team updated while they are in transit and to watch the entrances and exits while the staff that were already in the building, including resource officers, would be doing what they could to get people away or get them to the safest place they can. Police force as an intervention would be a last resort scenario, as escalation in these situations will only guarantee more dead. The police have no obligation to protect or serve under the current laws, they are not required to do fuck all, they should not be the people you expect to save or help you, they only exist at this point to punish you and bind you.
Congrats! You win a prize for offering the first actual answer to the question without simply attacking me for my perceived biases. 🏆
In most mass shootings I doubt negotiation is going to get very far - and the delay may cause more deaths. Many times the perpetrator simply commits suicide. These are folks who have hit ‘fuck it’ and are looking to end it all and cause a lot of damage on the way out. Often by the time police are even able to respond they’ve done most of the damage they will do already.
The rest sounds an awful lot like SWAT.
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Your trophy is taken back. Sorry - I thought you were serious.
Where did you get this from? I genuinely don’t understand the childish level of anger I’m getting for asking a legitimate question. When people say “never call the cops” they neglect to say what one should do instead. Just hide in a corner and wait for inevitable death?
Kowtowing to WHO??? Are you people crazy or something?
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I’m gonna single you out since you gave the most coherent response at some point and hope you can talk like an adult for a moment (an assumption I’m making since you’re probably like 13).
Why are you so mad at me?
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Ghostbusters!
Myself
You get down on your knees and pray really hard.
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