Semperverus

If you had read Christoph’s reasoning, it wasn’t “just because it’s written in Rust.” He actually gave some decent technical reasoning for it that went beyond his original personal outburst (which I hold him to the same standard as Hector for, but he did shore up later and fixed his communication).

Part of being a good developer is the “working well with other human beings” part. Linus himself took a hiatus to improve himself in this area.

Another part of being a good developer is to work within and adapting to the frameworks of an existing project, especially if you are joining at a later point. In this context, it would be the R4L folks joining the project known as “the Linux kernel.”

Hector failed on both counts. He has programming skills, but that’s not all that’s required.

I am so glad Linus just came out and said it. I was pretty upset at Hector too in the other thread the other day, and I especially didn’t appreciate a call to remove a major developer from the kernel because Hector wasn’t getting his way. Very militant action on Hector’s part where it just wasn’t necessary.

Hector, if you’re reading this, communication skills are just as if not more important than your Rust development skills, and frankly your communication skills lack.

They literally go out of their way to tell you they aren’t.

They are what’s called “Source-First” according to their own terminology

One of the things they say in that blog post that I think misses the point is that OSI-approved licenses don’t “fail to protect the developer”, they are literally built to pass the rights of the developer to the user, where they belong. Open source protects the user, full stop. The side effect of this is that corps can take advantage as they are also users - and this is why I personally fight so hard for the GPL license as it does prevent big corps from taking and not giving back.

FUTO is “Source-First” until they switch to a license that prioritizes the user over the developer. I believe the FUTO company’s public image is of service to their users, which is fantastic, we need more of that, but their license only reflects that partially.

Deemed by who though?

Christoph is an engineer and has been for a long time. There are probably considerations he is making that you either cannot or are refusing to fathom. He’s clearly not against rust in general, just in mixing languages in one codebase.

To be clear though, I personally don’t have a horse in this race, I am speaking somewhat as an outside observer, so i gain nothing from you getting your way or Christoph his.

Stop and think without attributing malice to why someone in his position would make the statements and decisions he’s making. He’s not an idiot.

Looks like Paolo served you a slice of humble pie there at the end.

Please keep this kind of FUD elsewhere, thank you.