jwiggler

His own thing is still Project 2025 unfortunately.

Okay yeah I get you now.

I think you have a good point but I do think it could be sooner. If Newsom thinks Trump may cause more damage to to his state than aid (I’m thinking about lack of disaster relief, draining of reservoirs, sending military in to deal with protests, raiding schools for illegal immigrants, stifling scientific research, going after “woke” speech), what choice will he have ?

Already, schools in Massachusetts are informing school nurses not to comply with ICE if they come through. What happens when Trump says that Massachusetts is defying the law and goes after leadership there? Will Massachusetts bend?

But I think ultimately you may be right, I suppose it might depend on how antagonistic Trump is toward blue states.

Could you expound on that? I don’t think average Americans will be able to stop what’s going on because we are too busy with work, families, and entertainment. And if, by chance, we are paying attention to the news, the 24 hour cycle and social media algorithms put some new thing in front of our faces before we have the time to process what we just saw.

Do you mean states aren’t going to be that proactive, so they won’t break away?

We are living through the greatest constitutional crisis of our lifetimes – maybe since the Civil War. The US has never seen anything happen like this domestically. We are rapidly moving toward the dissolution of the US and civil war.

If the courts do not prosecute Trump and Elon Musk, which is highly likely, the assault on EVERY federal service and source of funds will continue. “Throwing it back to the states” will cause the states to contract – without confidence in any federal assistance or regulations, states will need to figure it out themselves – and if they start seeing the federal government as something they need to protect their citizens from…well, why would they remain a part of that federal government? If the US government is completely unreliable due to the massive brain, experience, and regulation drain, what reason do states have to remain a part of that? Especially when the feds want to restrict speech and expression in the way they do.

And if the courts somehow slap down Elon and Trump and they are removed? Then we’ve got violence from the J6ers and likely more.

We very well might be witnessing the end of the US, as I see it. But maybe someone can offer some counterpoints