See previous comments. Once again, your reading comprehension skills aren’t my problem. If you can’t understand, then just go away. In either case? I’m not wasting anymore time on you. Either you are incapable of grasping an extremely simple concept that everyone else has grasped or you’re just a troll. At any rate, you have a negative value in my life and aren’t even remotely worth the effort. Nothing can be gained when you are acting this way. You will never add anything of value. You have no worth in this conversation when you cannot follow along and I do not have the time, patience, or crayons to explain it to you.

Man, you have just actively avoided logic at every possible opportunity here. You’re just burying your head in the sand and screaming that everyone else is wrong. The downvotes isn’t because i’m popular, it is because you have no idea what you’re talking about. Have fun with that, I’m done wasting time on you. There’s no point in having a conversation with you if you’re just going to divorce yourself from reality like a Trump or Pollievre voter.

Have fun with the bed you made. You aren’t worth a single second more of my time.

Ratio says otherwise. You are getting hammered with downvotes because you can’t grasp the simple concept that I put forward.

Yeah, and quick thing, but how do we go about getting rid of those they again?

Oh yeah…

By being an educated voter.

I can be angry at ‘them’ all I want. I am. But I can be equally as frustrated with the infinite amount of fools who buy into that propaganda and think nothing more of it. I am not going to remove blame from idiots simply because they were swayed by propaganda from one side. They are still idiots who didn’t educate themselves, didn’t go further in and entrenched themselves in stupidity. Never thinking for themselves.

I am done with this circular logic of “No, don’t blame the people who aren’t doing the literal ONE FUCKING THING that they have within their power to do! Blame someone else!” Equally as done with this conversation.

It literally does. Your reading comprehension skills are not my problem.

Yes. This is true. Do you know how you effect those social movements in the government?

By voting.

You cannot argue that you are trying to participate in a social change of government by not engaging in that system of government. It is what is there. If you want to change it, you either need a full on revolution or active social change effected through voting in of various representatives that actually represent you and are willing to change those laws. True, you cannot fall to electoral fetishism, but that doesn’t mean to just ignore it entirely.

So. Once again, I am blaming the voters which is an accurate blame to place. Why? Because they are uneducated, hostile, or hateful. They do not engage in the voting system, they engage in spectacle. Whether that be by posting random comments like this Index person who is blatantly a Russian or by throwing a hissy fit but not doing anything.

The reason this cycle keeps continuing is because voters do not educate themselves and vote for their best interests. It is just as simple as that. Straight up. It isn’t complex. There isn’t some massive conspiracy. People just do not bother.

I understand the emotional appeal to blaming individuals for their action/inaction, but the fault lies with the system of governance.

And how do you fix that?

VOTE.

My blame is accurately placed.

And if everyone in your state who thought that actually decided to vote then it might have actually made an impact.

See previous message.

The patriotism is what put them in this mess but the voting blocs are what is killing them. The United States had no business being the country that it is. It overextended its reach to an absurd extent. It tried to captiulate to too many people who all wanted to share in the nationlistic nonsense that America pumps out daily. Now the country is fragmented to hell. Too many people feel like that the country doesn’t represent them in anyway while also insisting that the United States should be another way. So they rally around two voting blocs that diverge and don’t represent really anyone because they’re either like the Democrats and spreading themselves too thin while making no one happy or the Republicans who actively ignore what their voters want the second they have power.

The country is schizophrenic.

Yup. It is incredible at how deeply they’ve fallen for propaganda. Like Joe Biden being the one to send bombs like he personally wrapped the package. No one is blaming Congress, the people who actually approved the transfer of weapons. Nah. They wanna blame the President for not illegally stopping a transfer and opening himself up for impeachment like Trump did.

These people have no understanding of the US political system. They just scream and cry because they saw a few Youtube Shorts or TikToks and think they’re suddenly educated. That they can blame the figurehead for everything.

It is insane. Biden was the most progressive President the United States has had in decades and every single fuckwit bought the propaganda that the Right Wing was pushing. Was he perfect? God no. But he was miles better than Obama was but nah. Lets just scream about how awful he is because his hands were tied on Israel/Palestine, a problem that has absolutely no answer that doesn’t rip the fabric of someones world.

Children.

Correct. If you didn’t vote then you are spineless, a coward and lack any morals. You saw fascism coming and ignored what everyone said and then decided that it wasn’t worth the bare minimum effort of voting.

If you did not cast a ballot and you were eligible to do so then the things I want to say to you would get me banned from lemmy and probably arrested.

Just a not even remotely friendly reminder that if you are American, eligible to vote and didn’t vote for Kamala then you actively voted for this. Actively voted for genocide. If you didn’t vote you’re even fucking worse because at least the Republicans were willing to openly say what horrible people they are. You just don’t care.

The United States is a failed country, a terrorist state and should be wrenched away from its people. You do not deserve to have a country that large with that much power when you are incapable of agreeing on a singular fucking thing. The United States should be forcibly broken up into at least 2, if not more, countries that can make up a trade bloc. This bullshit of getting everyone killed from coast to coast because of your pathetic patriotic ego of “wahhhhhhh but my countryyyyyyyyyy”

Fuck the United States.