They can crash more frequently.
Where are your stats for this.
and the reason mint stays on x11 has NOTHING to do with this
source?
stable distros have worse support out of the box because they use an older kernel version and the kernel ships the drivers.
At this point I don’t even know what that means because maybe you have some other weird definition to pull out of your ass. Give me that in 5th grader level.
Mint focuses on
stabilityreliability as evident from its decision to use Ubuntu LTS versions as it’s base. In case I need to spell it out, LTS versions are generally more reliable.And you brought up X11 as a negative, but there’s a good reason Mint is staying on X11. Yes, Wayland is the future and eventually Mint will adopt Wayland as well, when Wayland becomes more
stablereliable. I’m the mean time Mint stays on X11 because X11 is verystablereliable, extremelystablereliable compared to Wayland if you have an Nvidia card.Mint also has better out the box support. For example to my knowledge for Nvidia Fedora comes with Nouvuea drivers which means for gaming you need to go through an extra process to get proprietary drivers. Mint has out the box support for Nvidia drivers. This is less of a thing when compared to Bazzite, but still a reason why to pick Mint as a beginner distro.
FTFY you little grammar nazi.
From your own article
Or, the fact that the same term is understood in two different and sometimes conflicting ways may indicate that the term is not an ideal one in the first place.
I’m sorry that English is not my first language and I’m not aware of the subtle difference in meaning you’re after, but really all you’ve proven is that you’re a pedantic little troll who understood what I said and still chose to be obtuse about it. Another example how of this discussion is a waste of time.
Okay, this has turned into a complete waste of time. It’s impossible to talk to a person who makes up their own definition for words and demands proof of something most of the Linux community is in agreement. You’re the Linux equivalent of a flat earther.
The arguments are super simple.
Mint focuses on stability as evident from its decision to use Ubuntu LTS versions as it’s base. In case I need to spell it out, LTS versions are generally more stable and reliable.
And you brought up X11 as a negative, but there’s a good reason Mint is staying on X11. Yes, Wayland is the future and eventually Mint will adopt Wayland as well, when Wayland becomes more stable. I’m the mean time Mint stays on X11 because X11 is very stable, extremely stable compared to Wayland if you have an Nvidia card.
Mint also has better out the box support. For example to my knowledge for Nvidia Fedora comes with Nouvuea drivers which means for gaming you need to go through an extra process to get proprietary drivers. Mint has out the box support for Nvidia drivers. This is less of a thing when compared to Bazzite, but still a reason why to pick Mint as a beginner distro.
And the reason people recommend Mint is in those first two points. Mint deliberately sacrifices fancy bells and whistles to be as stable as possible. You not knowing that shows how little you know about Mint.
Specializes in giving beginners Linux, can’t name a single good reason why people recommend Mint to beginners (now or in the past), except for it having a GUI and guides. I don’t know about the beginners you’re “helping” but based on this conversation I wouldn’t trust a single recommendation, suggestion or opinion from you.
That does NOT have very little to do with beginners, being a highly supported distro is one of the most important things for beginners
Beingly highly supported is a prerequisite to being a good beginner distro, but it’s not a reason to recommend a distro. If we take it as a reason then Mint having a GUI is also a reason to recommend to beginners.
having guides for how to do things written specifically for your distro is fantastic for new people.
This is where we’re going to completely disagree. Guides in general are good, but I doubt any beginner actually cares about guides, unless it’s a guide telling you what to click where on the GUI. A good beginner distro has to work for the user without the need of any guides.
It being beloved is why it’s recommended, yes, and that doesn’t benefit new people, but that’s an obvious reason why one might recommend it…
Instead of playing the prying game where I keep prying until you give straight answers (because people don’t love Mint just because it’s an Ubuntu fork) I’m just going to conclude that either you deliberately don’t want to say why people recommend Mint to beginners or you actually don’t know why people recommend Mint. I don’t care which it is because both invalidate your opinion of the Mint suggestion being outdated.
There’s also the fact that it’s designed to be easy to use, but that also applies to fedora, and fedora is significantly more well-developed, so it’s not really relevant here.
Somehow you think the ease of use isn’t relevant because it also applies to Fedora, but support is relevant despite it also applying to Fedora? How about some consistency in your arguments.
The only reason Mint is suggested to beginners is because it’s “a highly supported, beloved distro”? A reason that has very little to do with beginners?
Stupid autocorrect. Why was it the best choice?
We’ve was it the best choice?
We’ve already established that a lot of people will recommend Mint. What do you think, why do a lot of people recommend Mint?
I disagree. Obviously the most ideal solution would be the have immutable Mint, but beginners need stability more than they do immutability. I’ve used mint and my only issue with Mint was that I didn’t like how it looked. I’m currently on Bazzite and these are the issues I’ve ran into:
Every time I start Firefox it asks to be made into the default browser. Even if I click yes it will still ask again next time I start Firefox.
When using the default audio sometimes the audio signal to my monitor cuts off which means I no audio comes from the speakers. If I tell the system to send the audio to my other monitor and back to the one I have hooked on the speakers then it instantly works again. It’s almost like the system forgets it has to send out audio. I don’t remember what I did to fix it but it definitely wasn’t beginner friendly.
Sometimes one of the monitors freezes and only one. The second monitor keeps working just fine. So far haven’t found a permanent solution for this issue.
There have also been some minor artifacting that I personally don’t consider an issue but someone else might.
Overall I can put up with the issues because I’ve pretty much conceded that I’m going to have issues. But I don’t think new users should be using a system where they’re going to run into problems they’re most likely not equipped to fix. That why I recommend Mint to newcomers because all the fancy bells and whistles don’t matter if the system doesn’t work. Mint doesn’t have bells and whistles, but it just works.
All the more reason to not do anything about it. Let America implode and their interventionist power also takes a hit.
I’m starting to feel like this is a controversial opinion, but maybe the American people should be the ones holding their own government accountable? Interventionism is the worst way to fix a country and I very much doubt it even could be done for a country like America.
Well, yeah? When Russia rolled in Ukraine had already been at war for 6 years. Ukraine was as prepared as you can be against a surprise invasion. Most of the EU probably doesn’t even entertain the possibility of an invasion. If Russia were to invade the EU not only would the EU not be prepared for it but Russia would also have the advantage in experience.
I’m not saying Russia would conquer the whole of EU but, if they also take Ukraine, I could see them taking the whole eastern Europe.
In lazyvim a vertical line, with no crossings, is still broken, as it is two pipes separated by the line space height.
My bad. I literally didn’t notice that single pixel between the two lines.
No, I’m saying it’s trash because it CANNOT do something basic like drawing a continuous vertical line, because it is hamstrung by using the interface of a typewriter. A git branch is just one readily available example of a situation where something extremely basic like drawing a continuous line would make sense.
So it’s trash because it doesn’t look like how you want it to look like. Got it.
I can’t cite internal market research that is under NDA. I can point you to basic courses on design and UX, point you to information on concepts like cognitive overload, and point out to you the multiple trillion dollar software companies that got to where they are entirely through paying attention to little UX details that backend nerds previously claimed didn’t matter and were user skill issues.
Sure. I’d say you would understand me not taking the word of someone who has no problem being confidently wrong, but somehow I doubt you’d understand.
Bruh, why would you even try and talk out of your ass like this? I am literally using jsCad and VsCode to do my personal 3d printing modelling, and I literally got my start programming using first VS, then VSCode, to build 3d modelling software for Autodesk. Not sure if you’re aware of this but modern websites have this little thing called WebGL that lets them display these little things called jraphics.
Sorry. I made an invalid assumption because I’ve never had an actual need for anything like that. But hey, I never said VIM needs to do everything VsCode can. In fact I think I’ve been pretty open that you should use whatever tool suits the job and and my argument has been that for software development VIM is just as good as vsCode. The fact that you want to keep your jscad inside VS code is your personal preference, you can just as easily keep in the browser and switch between the terminal an browser. I don’t get your need to die on the smallest of hills to be right but if that’s all you want then go be right. I couldn’t care less.
I said continuous vertical lines and literally posted a screenshot of it not being able to do it.
But it’s literally doing that in your image. When a horizontal and vertical line cross the horizontal line breaks.
No, it’s not. The human brain does not process dashed lines as easily as it does continuous lines. A whole bunch of dashed lines are objectively harder to follow than continuous ones.
Oh, did you mean the points that represent actual commits? You’re arguing it’s trash because there’s no line between two adjacent commits? Really?
You can think that’s not important, but the literal decades of UX research and attention to fine grained user interaction, can prove that you’re just flat out wrong.
You’ve brought it up multiple times now so I think it’s time you also source that claim. Cmon, source the claim where the code editor with better visual fidelity increases productivity.
Literally just go ahead and try and visualize a basuc cube with this base point and dimensions through a CLI and watch that wow, maybe a fucking typewriter interface isn’t the best for absolutely everything:
Not only is this a stupid argument but it’s one that I’ve already addressed. Yes, terminal can’t do everything, but I don’t think anyone is using VS code to look at a cube either. Actually, I’m not even sure if there is a VS code extension that draws cubes? So you wouldn’t use VS code for that either. Just like someone using terminal for development would use a different tool to visualize a cube you’d do the same thing if you were using VS code for development. What the fuck are you even arguing here?
I think you meant horizontal line because lazygit is drawing vertical lines. And if we were to get pedantic when to lines cross in vs code then one of them also breaks which means vs code also doesn’t have continuous lines. It’s functionally the same visual representation of data so you’re literally arguing over it not looking like you want it to look.
You’re literally refusing to acknowledge the graphical difference between the standard git tree and Lazygit git tree, and you call it trash because it doesn’t look like you want it to look. It’s dogmatic.
So you don’t have stats you have anecdotal evidence.
It clearly requires a source because Cinnamon 6.0 has Wayland as an experimental support and Mint team has said they are planning to eventually move to Wayland.
For Gnome. You’ve been pretty much talking about KDE (unless you’re now magically going to do a 180 and start saying how Windows users would have a better time learning GNOME), which if you bothered to actually check what you’re saying would have noticed the
Clearly implying you should expect running into issues.
Somehow the things you say are straight-forward seem to be nothing but.
In theory. Except in practice we’re not talking about kernels that are 5+ years old. Latest Mint version is running on Ubuntu Noble which is using Kernel version 6.8 which supports all the latest CPU-s and GPU-s. Just because it’s not using the very latest kernel version doesn’t mean it’s not capable of supporting the latest hardware.