Surely these cuts mean our taxes will drop dramatically… right…

My numbers were not contradicted. Look at the table on page. 32. If you don’t count jails, group homes, “unknown”, or cars as public places your total is around 18% taking place in public. I recognize that the rates wouldnt likely be even among modes of suicide. But, you’re asking for data thats incredible difficult to specifically find. My original statement is that public suicides are uncommon but not unheard. The data I provided supports that statement. I will absolutely concede that I haven’t been able to link specific modality to public though. If you find data that disproves the below please provide it.

Natural area (park, woods, open land)

1,816 =4.4%

Street / highway 1,163 =2.8%

Hotel / motel 946=2.3%

Parking lot / garage / public transport 718= 1.7%

Park / playground / sports area 330 = <1%

Bridge 316 = <1%

Commercial / retail area 316 = <1%

Railroad tracks 256 = <1%

Other location 1,321 =3.2%

Yeah, second autopsy wasn’t released and the statement he made is completely false as of current information available.

Yes there is absolutely tons of horrific cases of lynching and race motivated killings in the USA’s history as well as current day. I’m not disputing that. There is also a considerable history of the government and accelerationist groups using tragedies like this suicide to create violent riots and social unrest. Especially considering the current administration. We need to look at current evidence and react accordingly. Giving the fascist any reason to further crack down hurts everyone but the elites. My heart breaks for the victim and the family 100%. I’m not against further investigation either. If foul play is discovered ANYONE involved should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. But, until we have any evidence at all that suggests that we need to stay objective.

Claims gaslighting while blatantly spreading a false narrative that the family has even stated is false.

That’s your response to me saying the facts you tried to present have been proven untrue? You’re the one gaslighting and spreading unproven information because you desperately want it to help the narrative you’ve created for the world.

https://wonder.cdc.gov/

https://www.cdc.gov/nvdrs/

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/74/ss/pdfs/ss7405a1-H.pdf

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/73/ss/pdfs/ss7305a1-H.pdf

"Hanging/Suffocation Suicides: According to CDC WONDER data, hanging and suffocation accounted for approximately 25–26% of all suicide deaths in recent years.

Public Place Suicides: NVDRS data indicates that about 22–25% of all suicides occur in public places.

Estimation: By applying the public place percentage to the hanging/suffocation suicides, we estimate that approximately 10–15% of hanging/suffocation suicides occur in public places."

I take the story personally and thats probably unhealthy… Shocking amount of suicide and denial of that suicide in my personal life. Anyway, I couldn’t get that data together specifically the way you wanted. Closest I could gather was a listing of public suicides over a ten year span 2013-2023.On average around 45,000 people commit suicide a year, about 12,000 of that by hanging. Public is where the numbers got more difficult but there is some info out there, I’ll post it below. Numbers below represent a single year based on averages from the 10 year span. So its not common but also nowhere near close to unheard of. I had an AI try to compile specifically hanging public suicides and it said between 10-15% of hanging suicides happen in public. I can include the prompts I used to get you there if you dont trust me. Sources it used were the CDC, National Center for Health Statistics and the National Violent Death Reporting System.

Motor vehicle — 2,363.

Natural area — 1,895.

Street or highway — 1,209.

Hotel or motel — 1,032.

Park/playground/sports/athletic area — 719.

Parking lot / public garage / public transport — 700.

Jail or prison — 654.

Commercial / retail area — 475.

Bridge — 323.

Railroad tracks — 285.

Hospital / medical facility — 178.

Yeah, I pointed out the currently available evidence. Also disproved the legitimacy of a parallel situation. The misinformation got significantly more upvotes as the factual information and article I linked. People want this to be a hate crime and no amount of proof will dissuade them from believing it is.

Again, you’re spreading misinformation. The second autopsy hasn’t been released yet and even members of the victims family have come out to apologize for pushing that false narrative. I’m linking a reputable article below that came out hours ago stating all the facts on that specific case. You want an outcome thats easier to accept but doesn’t currently have any evidence backing it.

https://www.snopes.com/news/2025/10/08/trey-reed-blunt-force-trauma/

The first story you linked, false, one of the several outlits that stated blunt force trauma was involved. You’re actively assisting the the spreading of misinformation because you want a specific outcome. The second autopsy information hasn’t been released yet. Its almost like the people want this to be a hate crime because it would be easier to cope with. Do you have any idea how rarely the family or friends see suicide coming? It’s almost never an open and shut case where the family just accepts it. You know why? Because it’s fucking horrifically difficult to rationalize that someone you love so much would just give up and disapear.

https://www.snopes.com/news/2025/10/08/trey-reed-blunt-force-trauma/

It seems like you’d be a very tough person to spend time with.

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I appreciate that. Part of why this particular case is so magnetic for me. It feels like people want to create a divisive conspiracy supported by no evidence. That way they can get some white people bad points. Rather than admit we have a massive mental health crisis happening. Everyone should be trying to help one another, not use a tragedy to divide eachother further.

Yes your source supports my statement that its the second most common form of suicide in the US. New Mexico also happens to be the 5th leading state in number of suicides to population ratio.

No not at all, that’s not what I’m saying. It’s just that there is no evidence to support anything other than suicide. He had no injuries, had an active warrant out for his arrest, had a hospital band on and he was living in emergency housing. It doesn’t sound like things were going well for him, a suicide seems so much more likely than a massive conspiracy and cover up. Just looking at the case pragmatically based on the facts available.

It’s the second most common form of suicide in the US. Unfortunately, lost an uncle and cousin to it.

Do people want this to have been a hate crime?