My understanding is that outlaws were still subject to the law in the UK …
English Common Law had the “writ of outlawry” and the subject was deprived of all legal rights, being outside the “law”, but others could kill him on sight as if he were a wolf or other wild animal.
If so, any white supremacist or government agency could commit any atrocity and not get convicted, because the victim wasn’t protected by any laws.
Ding ding ding! You got it!
Sure, and also no one to protect them if / when they’re caught.
If these people are not under the jurisdiction of the US then we have no legal right to deport them as they aren’t subject to our laws.
No.
Outlaws, people literally outside the law, have no legal protections at all. Taken to its limit this means that deportation is not necessary as they could simply be executed where they are found.
This is why being declared an outlaw was such a big fucking deal back when that word wasn’t just a synonym for “criminal”. You could be executed in broad daylight by the first person that found you and there would be no repercussions.
Well then by that logic all illegal immigrants arent under any US jurisdiction.
Honestly that is the original meaning of the word “outlaw”; iIt literally meant someone who was outside the law. Today we most use it as a synonym for “criminal” or “law breaker” but at the time the Constitution was written or at the time the 14th Amendment was ratified most people would have understood it with its original meaning.
“Outlaws” were neither subject to nor protected by the law. They had no legal status nor standing in the law.
It denotes me as an admin. I wish it wouldn’t.
I’ve been enjoying Jeff Geerling’s ongoing experiments with his 10" Raspberry Pi mini rack.
It doesn’t work for me since all of my network equipment is 19" and there’s no point in having two racks but having a 10" standard is still a great idea!
The concept of an “outlaw” goes at least as far back as ancient Rome and was used in England until something like 1869. It held on in Scotland as part of Civil Law until somewhere in the 1940s. It was also present in France, Germany, and several Nordic countries.
This isn’t just a US thing.
Yes…because they are “Outside the Law”. An Outlaw is neither subject to nor protected by the law.
It’s that last part that so many people in here are missing. If the Elongated Muskrat were declared an “outlaw” you could kick in his front door, drag him out of bed, load him onto a catapult and fire him into the sun and the legal apparatus would not, nay could not, do anything about it.
People need to understand how deeply that “no legal process to submit to” goes. The “outlaw” isn’t subject to the law but neither is anyone else as it relates to them.