• minorkeys@lemmy.world
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    7 days ago

    I don’t have a ton of confidence the working class would choose someone who did choose them. Bernie is that candidate, and shenanigans aside from the dem primary, he didn’t swing a landslide.

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      7 days ago

      Most of the US working class still hates and fears the things that benefit them, such as socialist policies and unions. Propoganda dies hard.

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        7 days ago

        No, I’m saying he already chose the working class and it hasn’t galvanized the working class to support him by a significant majority so I’m not sure it would have worked for Kamala. Bernie probably would have won a small majority, but done no better than corporate candidates have because the working class doesn’t seem to galvanized behind a candidate that does choose them.

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          He is too old to run for president. Can’t we just stop with the gerontocracy?

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            No one is suggested Bernie run – they are suggesting the system that knecapped him be examined and anyone involved in it dethroned. at minimum. We cant keep doing this stuff.

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            I don’t disagree that we need younger people, but the majority of voters seem to disagree seeing as how they chose two fucks just as old as he was

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          When Bernie was running the entire mass media did like a 24/7 campaign blasting how he “can’t win”… It was non-stop.

          The casual voter didn’t even have a chance to listen to him, he was constantly blasted with nonsense.

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            I must have been an early ‘out of the cable TV news loop’ person then. Explains some things.

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              Yeah no, both of my parents voted Biden in the SC primary because they said he was the only candidate who could beat Trump, because thats what cable news told them. The people who voted Biden in the general, and especially the people who voted Biden in the primary will vote exactly as they are told. Its hundred million non-voters whom dont vote because the party offers them fuckall who can be won.

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            7 days ago

            People heard him. He had many rallies and participated in primary debates. He also had a book out, did interviews. He had a very repetitive message which is normally good for politicians. Some of his ideas were very out of the norm for the time, some isolationist ideas-- not saying they were not valid but there was an alternative running that fed into people’s prejudices and encouraged them to be hostile and mean- fed their dopamine centers, and said the words “communist” and “socialist” a lot. Also there were a lot of Democrats who wanted to vote for a Democrat, not a “Democrat for convenience.”

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        You do realise that you can cheat against someone even if that someone wasn’t going to win? The opponents using cheats only implies the level of confidence of said opponents, not necessarily the chance of winning for the one being cheated against. While those two are usually related, they don’t necessarily have to be.