People with asthma, flat feet, depression, heart murmurs, etc can’t join the military. Why should people with gender dysphoria be allowed to join?
People who would never join the military are the ones complaining. And if they do join, they should be limited to non deployable jobs.
Because we aren’t supposed to exist.
That’s why the rhetoric is so focused on kids. You torture/conversion therapy/get them to Jill themselves, then act like being trans is a “phase” or “fad” or mental illness or ploy to molest girls. There aren’t supposed to be “real” trans adults.
The only people saying trans people aren’t allowed/supposed to exist are trans people claiming others are saying it when they’re not.
Did you forget that executive order that Trump signed?
So, there haven’t been any trans people that regret their transitions? There haven’t been any trans people that have molested kids? Do trans people groom kids in order to multiply?
Trans people are prescribed pills for their condition or lifestyle choice… People who are prescribed pills for depression are blocked from joining the military. So why do you think they should get a waiver for being trans and a person with clinical depression can’t?
I have zero regrets about my transition. It really sucks that the place I live treats me as a second class citizen for being transgender, but that is on them and not me.
Your comments about trans medical care reveal a profound ignorance which isn’t worth engaging with. You aren’t a doctor, and your opinions on endocrinology are probably worth as much as bathroom graffiti. Your opening paragraph is a bunch of stupid, hysterical non sequiturs with no relevance to the current conversation.
Try again.
So trans people don’t have to take hormones for the rest of their lives?
And if you think those questions were irrelevant, they were in direct response to yours.
The subject at hand is trans joining the military.
So if a trans person who has to take hormones for the rest of their lives, why should they be able to join if a person with clinical depression takes medication for it can’t?
You do know that I don’t have to be an endocrinologist to know what disqualifies you for the military?
You try again.
Didja know that not all trans people take hormones? Also, they aren’t always in pill form - your comments so far seem to indicate that you have absolutely no idea how trans medical care works. T can even be in pellets which you take every few months.
People who are on medications can join the military. I imagine someone with medical qualifications in endocrinology would be the person to make that call.
The military allowed trans people under Obama and Biden with no issues.
Maybe don’t talk about issues you know nothing about?
I never said it was an issue. Like I said before, they’d have to be non deployable. I really don’t care. People can get waivers for some conditions, but not for asthma or depression, you seem to be skirting around the main issue here.
The trans who don’t take hormones won’t pass for their desired gender lolYou don’t even want to join the military. You know nothing about the military. The qualifications are a bit strict given the nature of the military.
I know more about military qualifications than you do.
The trans who don’t take hormones won’t pass for their desired gender lol
My first speeding ticket was before I started testosterone. The officer wrote male. My drivers license still said female.
I do shots, once a week. Started every other week. No deleterious medical effects over the past ten or so years, barring some issues with high blood cell count, which is fairly easy to manage/eliminate. I do it myself - I’m shit at z-tracking but eh, must not be fucking it up too much. Just to give you a data point, because you seem ignorant about trans people in general and I’m glad to educate.
In a military context I can imagine it would be problematic to give oneself injections, but there are gels and the pellets. Estrogen is a pill, can also be injected. But the thing is, you can go without hormones and it’s survivable. Testosterone shortages have been a routine issue forever. It’s not like having to skip a week detranses you.
I’m not questioning your knowledge of the military - I am questioning your knowledge of medicine.
Not every role within the military is a combat role. I very much doubt that people with asthma or flat feet are barred working, for example, as analyst in military intelligence. And if the military does then the military should scrounge up some actual intelligence.
Military intelligence is an oxymoron, no such thing. I wouldn’t have a problem if trans or people with asthma join, they’d have to be non deployable and have a desk job or something similar
Making easier to dodge the draft.
Careful though, you might dodge yourself right into a prison in El Salvador.
With the enrollment going down, banning women and now this, they really don’t want a military.
I was in the military for over 10 years. A lot of LGBTQ+ people join the military for the same reason White straight men like myself did. They were out of options. I lived in a very rural area with no job or education opportunities and raised by an absentee single mother with no money or property. The military was a way out. Many LGBTQ+ people had the same situation as me. Many others were shunned or disowned by their families and had no other way to get ahead. Their families refused to care for them just for being gay. I served with many people who were as flamboyantly gay as you can get in a combat uniform and I never saw an issue. Never had any reason to doubt their intent or integrity. The people who caused the most problems were other White straight men, especially those from southern states.
The more people banned from the US military the better.
Unfortunately they made it so for a lot of people it’s the only available way to escape poverty
magats be like:
- Ban trans people
- Ban gay/lesbian people
- Ban non-whites
- Ban women
- Ban non christians
In 2026: Rebel army is made of Non-Christians, People of Colour, Women, LGBT people.
Also magats: surprised pikachu face
You forgot a few more people
- Catholics
- Protestants who dont follow the church of Trump
- Neurodivergant people
- Class conscious workers
- Immigrants
- Non anglo-saxons
- Non Republicans
- Republicans that follow any faction other than Trumpism
- Native Americans
Thats covered in “nonwhite” (let’s be honest though white is a meaningless word)
JD Vance is Catholic. he converted right around the time his political ambitions deepend. Leonard Leo (Federalist Society president) is Catholic, as are most of FedSoc leadership. Roberts, Barrett and Kavanaugh are Catholic.
the deep power in the RNC is very conservative Catholic.
When I say Catholic I mean genuenly Catholic, aka people who follow the pope over Orange Jesus. Example:
Amy Coney Barrett is super fucking Catholic… Though I guess many of them are regretting that appointment given how she’s ruled in Trump’s cases recently
Trump’s probably going to go after their tax-exempt status, now.
Like the nazis before them the fascists of America do not like real Catholics or Protestants that acturally belive in god
But he killed the Pope with his cringe aura.
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I think you meant deepened… depends is what Trump wears…
Nothing against senile incontinence, but it’s not something our president should have
Non anglo-saxons
So everyone? Ain’t any Anglo Saxon around since that little old conquest of 1066
Kinda like how Trumps definitions of sex basically turned eveyone agender I expect them to accidentally ban eveyone from the military and then not follow their own rules
Fuck it.
Let’s ban all the liberals and queers and women and fems and educated, too. Then let’s get a draft going and set no minimum or maximum age. Let’s start making all our own equipment and you know let’s just not give them anything. Then let’s get into a war with China and not use drones or ai or tanks. Ohh noooooo, all the shitty people diiieedd. Sorry China, we take it back. Yeah, all those rules we changed, it didn’t work out. Oh well. NO MAGATS. VOTING TIME.
They just want trans people to die, not to die for their country.
When there are fewer LGBT people in the military, then there will also be less resistance from within when the military is used to oppress that very same group. I suspect that might be a reason for the ban. Also I guess there’d be less chance for a coup, but I don’t know how likely that is to begin with.
The military is all about indoctrination which is the polite word for “brainwashing”. Our trans friends in the armed forces are just as unlikely to stop stomping on necks as anyone else.
Nah, this is just general hate toward the Ts (expect the Ls, Bs, Gs, Qs, and +s to follow).
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This will turn into good news once they start the draft
Hopefully they won’t already be in camps.
its simple, everyone can say they are trans to avoid the draft.
Wait a sec. I gotta go quickly get a wig and some dresses before the stock dries up.
Now what’s this about a draft?
Make the US military weak again.
Don’t even need to cycle an original thought into something this dumb.
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“An unprecedented degree of animus towards transgender people animates and permeates the ban: it is based on the shocking proposition that transgender people do not exist,” the lawyers wrote.
Someone needs to hire new lawyers cause that’s not even being discussed.
You are either missing the point or are willfully obtuse.
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They are a transphobe. Even tagged then as such the previous time they tried to pass off their hate as “just stuff everyone knows is true”.
I wouldn’t bother.
Edited to add: Yeah, see reply, they just keep going. “If being transphobic makes me a transphobe then words have lost meaning” is… Well, something.
Tag accuracy confirmed!
Edited to add: Yeah, see reply, they just keep going. “If being transphobic makes me a transphobe then words have lost meaning” is… Well, something.
Acknowledging that males and females are different makes someone transphobic in your mind, does it?
There could, in fact, not be the category of trans if there was no gender binary. Without the moon, no cis- and translunar orbits. A boundary has to exist before it is possible to cross it or, indeed, stay within it.
That boundary is a quite bit fuzzy because gender is a bimodal distribution: Two bell curves which meet in the middle. But it clearly is there, those two humps clearly exist, they may apply to no individual but they apply, statistically, to the population as a whole, and as we’re individuals and not statistics where shit gets stupid is when people are saying “you’re on that side of the graph in aspect X, therefore you must be on the same side in aspect Y”: It’s trying to enforce a strict boundary when things are, well, fuzzy. Multi-dimensional, at the very least. There’s women with beards and men who can give birth. There always have been, and if that scares you then you should learn to live and let live.
“Trans” means people who are one sex who think they are the other, or think they are a “gender” different to what their sex determined gender is. That’s fine, they can identify themselves however they want in terms of “gender identity”.
Gender as it is now used is basically a “feeling”. It’s not scientific. It’s not based on science or biology or anything tangible. It’s literally just feelings. This is why there should not be any laws based on “gender”, but instead all based on sex - when anyone can change their gender at any time, basing anything on gender is completely pointless.
Sex is not “fuzzy”. There are 2 sexes, male and female. 2 gametes. 2 chromosomes. These “men” who can give birth are females/women who “identify” as the gender of “man”.
For the bearded women, facial hair doesn’t determine sex.
Sex is not “fuzzy”. There are 2 sexes, male and female. 2 gametes. 2 chromosomes.
That’s not even covering karyotypes, much less phenotypes. Read up on the actual biology before making BS claims like that.
Dunno if you deleted your comment or what but I have the notification for it so I’ll reply to this one:
XXY karotypes exist, sure - that would be a male with a DSD. All DSDs affect either a male or a female. They are disorders that affect one or both sexes, not different sexes.
Phenotypes are whole irrelevant. They’re just observable traits , like height or eye colour. There are no “female sex determining phenotypes”.
It all is very complex, but the number of sexes isn’t - male and female are all there is.
Also you used a fungus as an example of 20k sexes? This is incorrect. There are “20k” mating types, not sexes.
There are 2 sexes, factually. If you can show a third that has ever existed in any creature on earth you would win a Nobel prize.
“Males and females are different” = transphobe to you guys lol. Just like “Nazi”, being called a “transphobe” isn’t something anyone even blinks an eye about anymore because it’s lost all meaning.
It’s meaningless to you because you choose not to give it meaning, it has a very obvious, static meaning to people who live in reality.
it has a very obvious, static meaning to people who live in reality.
This is great because the people that live in reality don’t care about being called a nazi or a transphobe anymore because, because the people constantly calling everyone those words are denying the reality they live in.
It’s true that some people over-use those terms, but that doesn’t make them untrue accusations every time. Like this time for instance!
but that doesn’t make them untrue accusations every time.
Sure, but most of the time it does - like this time for instance! Nothing I have said is transphobic. If you think it has been, could you please quote it and show me how it is? I’m always keen to learn.
Gender fraud, seriously? What’s wrong with these people?
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Have they improved their electric and other utilities so that they don’t collapse in the slightest breeze? Or are they still doing stuff like this as a distraction
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Disgusting. I hate this timeline.
The only laws that matter are ones that are actually laws, not proposed laws. That proposal isn’t going anywhere
Even if it did, it’s still not saying trans people don’t exist.
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This executive order by trump literally acknowledges people with gender dysphoria and excludes them from the military. It’s not saying “trans people don’t exist”. It’s saying they DO, and they’re excluded from military service.
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It seems like maybe you don’t. Please explain to me how what I said is wrong? If their position is that trans people don’t exist, how can they ban them from the military?
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Can you please answer in the context of what we’re actually talking about? This EO does not “claim trans people don’t exist” which was the lawyers statement. This EO is saying that trans people are excluded from the military - how can it do that while also saying trans people don’t exist? That makes no sense. They need to exist in order to exclude them.
It’s not saying “gender dysphoria is not a diagnosis that exists anywhere” it’s saying “believing yourself to be transgender is a substantial enough mental illness and flaw in character so as to preclude military service.”
This claims that having gender dysphoria is some sort of deficiency, and not just a non-standard identifier. This invalidates the identity of trans people, and calls into question their legitimacy.
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That’s got nothing to do with this EO lol. It’s also not a law.
This isn’t happening in a vacuum.
Yes, this is. This is about making people with gender dysphoria ineligible for military service, the same way people with many other conditions are.
It has nothing to do with pronouns. It has nothing to do with same sex attraction. It has nothing to do with whatever else you want to pretend it does.
Bull. Shit.
So why does it specifically talk about people with gender dysphoria?
You’re gonna ignore all the other anti “dei” stuff being done? Pretend like this is just off in the corner all alone?
You’re full of shit. We’re done. I won’t hit my head against a wall.
