• Jesus@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    We also thought Americans were too racist to vote for a black man.

    IMHO, Americans will always prioritize swagger, the ability to clearly call bullshit, and the ability to generate hype and a sense of connection.

    This is why Americans vote for celebrities and actors.

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      I kind of see where you’re coming from - there’s an imperfect fungibility of bigotry. If you’re bigoted against one kind of person, it’s not hard to make you bigoted against another, it just takes a little propaganda.

      But it’s not a secret that young men broke for Trump by over 10%. I attribute that swing to the manosphere podcast circuit working round the clock this past election, and Elon Musk purchasing voters with his “sweepstakes.”

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_United_States_presidential_election#Exit_poll

      2020, Biden: 81,283,501 2020, Trump: 74,223,975

      2024, Harris: 75,017,613 2024, Trump: 77,302,580

      These numbers suggest that not only did more people vote for Trump than in 2020, even after living through the fucked COVID response, even after seeing January 6, more people chose not to vote at all. And it’s a 50/50 split: Trump converted 3 million votes from Biden, and 3 million more just stayed home.

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        And demographically, the biggest swing towards Trump was Latino men. It was like 18%, that seems insane to me. I don’t think “eggs and Palestine” is sufficient to explain what happened there.

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        And if you really want to see an election where people stayed home. Check out 2016.

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      Not sure about that. I agree americans love the celerberties but Think women’s rights vs black men right to vote. Black men had more rights before women for like 50 years. Its gonna be a bit for the old folks to die off and even then we got those Tate trolls trying to keep status quo.

      Also Obama wasn’t even “full black” and that was too much for some people. Probably sooner see a Hispanic dude than a full black guy or a woman. Its gonna be like that scene in head of state with people running to polls to stop Chris rock.

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        Maybe, but women do win places that have a lot of dumb misogynists. I think the ability to connect with voters, or voters wanting to be associated with someone interesting and cool, has a lot of power.

        And at the end of the day, if you look at the folks who are right of center in the US, they’ve elected twice as many women as people of color.