I can say you’re only concerned with short term and willing to lose the long term, while also saying I understand the short term is fucking terrible and it suck’s but it’s only going to get worse if people keep supporting the parties that got us here and are happy to be here. Because people have been saying this shit for like 50 years… and here we are, at it being worse.
The DNC’s literal job is to motivate and energize voters. Blaming the voters and not the DNC is like yelling at a Taco Bell employee about them removing potato’s from the menu as if the fucking cashier has any say what corporate does.
The DNC shouldn’t exist. Democrats job is to legislate. Not excite or energize anyone. Politics isn’t supposed to be life or death or exciting. It’s supposed to be banal and boring. The more boring the better.
And it’s freaking hilarious to watch you still flailing. You already admitted you voted for Harris just as I and many other people like myself. Yet you defend the sensationalist one-sided coverage and people pushing it against Harris.
If you’ve got this long-term plan let’s hear it. If I was a betting man my money would be on you don’t have anything other than the boiler plate.
if everyone just magically voted for my candidate things would magically be better.
And look I’ll even go first. My long-term plan is to end the relevance of national parties. To work with them only as long as we must to keep Republicans and outright fascists from office, due to current realities. While getting people elected to change those realities. They are not our friends but the unfortunate truth is we need each other. Further we need to work on not being so gullible as to amplify the propaganda of our enemies. Regardless of who they are. Your turn. Got anything besides accelerationism?
I assume you’re confusing me with someone else? I did not say I voted for Harris.
People who want to get elected’s job is to get people to want to vote for them. A national party then is supposed to… be a party people want to vote for.
Anyways, the long term plan is mostly, remove money & attack ads from politics, including post political job bullshit. Stop first past the post. Educate people well. Including on the internet and computers (we REALLY need good legislation on it but without people actually understanding it… that’s not easy) Get people to actually care about their own communities, and get involved, including in politics, school boards, etc. (And well, plenty of other things to change, much I have not sat down and formalized a plan for it because there’s not much point in fantasizing a world that’s not trying to destroy itself for profit. Mostly what I can do as a teacher… which also involves a lot of pushing my school to offer things. ) But the DNC is actively against a lot of that. Voting for them will not fix it.
I can say you’re only concerned with short term and willing to lose the long term, while also saying I understand the short term is fucking terrible and it suck’s but it’s only going to get worse if people keep supporting the parties that got us here and are happy to be here. Because people have been saying this shit for like 50 years… and here we are, at it being worse.
The DNC’s literal job is to motivate and energize voters. Blaming the voters and not the DNC is like yelling at a Taco Bell employee about them removing potato’s from the menu as if the fucking cashier has any say what corporate does.
The DNC shouldn’t exist. Democrats job is to legislate. Not excite or energize anyone. Politics isn’t supposed to be life or death or exciting. It’s supposed to be banal and boring. The more boring the better.
And it’s freaking hilarious to watch you still flailing. You already admitted you voted for Harris just as I and many other people like myself. Yet you defend the sensationalist one-sided coverage and people pushing it against Harris.
If you’ve got this long-term plan let’s hear it. If I was a betting man my money would be on you don’t have anything other than the boiler plate.
And look I’ll even go first. My long-term plan is to end the relevance of national parties. To work with them only as long as we must to keep Republicans and outright fascists from office, due to current realities. While getting people elected to change those realities. They are not our friends but the unfortunate truth is we need each other. Further we need to work on not being so gullible as to amplify the propaganda of our enemies. Regardless of who they are. Your turn. Got anything besides accelerationism?
I assume you’re confusing me with someone else? I did not say I voted for Harris.
People who want to get elected’s job is to get people to want to vote for them. A national party then is supposed to… be a party people want to vote for.
Anyways, the long term plan is mostly, remove money & attack ads from politics, including post political job bullshit. Stop first past the post. Educate people well. Including on the internet and computers (we REALLY need good legislation on it but without people actually understanding it… that’s not easy) Get people to actually care about their own communities, and get involved, including in politics, school boards, etc. (And well, plenty of other things to change, much I have not sat down and formalized a plan for it because there’s not much point in fantasizing a world that’s not trying to destroy itself for profit. Mostly what I can do as a teacher… which also involves a lot of pushing my school to offer things. ) But the DNC is actively against a lot of that. Voting for them will not fix it.