President Donald Trump has warned the U.K. and France that the “U.S.A. won’t be there to help you anymore,” as he vented his frustration over the close allies’ refusal to join military action against Iran.

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    Mate, I hope you’re the first one to win the lottery when they enact the draft since you clearly have no appreciation of the lives lost by your allies over the two decades of pointless war in the middle east. From what I’ve been told, the US marines needed to have their hands held by allied equivalents since they were so dumb. Americans couldn’t even figure out on their own that if you’re driving a convoy through enemy territory at night, it might behoove you to turn off the lights lmao. Story from a primary source that I don’t have in writing unfortunately, but it was a good laugh. Good luck surviving without any allied help, hope the USAF packs enough diapers.

    Much like 9/11 was caused by the US itself, the IRGC is ruling Iran begause of the US (and yes, also the UK). So it’s again you guys who created the mess in the first place and then you decided to take stab the hornets nest and complain that nobody is helping you this time, when you are clearly not appreciative of the help last time around. Iran wasn’t doing shit outside of occasionally standing up against the zionists, till Trump decided he could do a 3 day special military operation and make everything groovy again.

    Some 40 countries still had personnel in Afghanistan in 2021 when the withdrawal took place. Both NATO and non-NATO allies of the US. That’s two decades of support in what was an American fuckup in the first place (CIA literally created Bin Laden and guess who propped up the Taliban in the first place). Look up Operation Resolute Support.

    Fact of the matter is, even though only two operations happened under article 5, most NATO member countries continued to assist voluntarily out of a sense of duty to our allies - unfortunately that’s something Americans seem to lack these days.

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      Hey Rainbolt, I’m not USian and never stepped foot in an English-speaking country. So keep hoping.

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            You’re just trying to justify his talking points lol.

            Idk who was president of the US in 2001 in your version of history, but in mine it was Bush and he asked for more allied troops in 2008, why would he do that if they’d been so useless the prior 7 years? Should’ve just sent only American troops then.

            There were times during his first term when his administration was pissed at other NATO members, yes, but the actual reason had nothing to do with the Europeans’ fighting capabilities. It was more about disagreements over whether the US should get to dictate things unilaterally, as well as some countries outright declaring they wouldn’t join the Iraq invasion.

            Also, both General Franks and SECDEF Rumsfeld are largely credited with the strategic failures in the early part of the Afghanistan war. It’s literally why both were driven into retirement even though Rumsfeld wanted to keep Franks around and Bush wanted to keep Rumsfeld around. Much of the Anti-European sentiment in the early 00s US military brass came from those two.

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              11 hours ago

              You’re just trying to justify his talking points

              Trump’s talking points is that neither USians nor NATOans should be entitled to spinning bullshit on the web? Wow, that’s an incredible discovery. The Nobel prize should probably be awarded to you for such an earth-shaking revelation.

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                10 hours ago

                Ah, I see you’re out of arguments because your bullshit is so transparent. Bye bye