This should be the sticking point to invoke the 25th. Officials need to be loud and make a stink about how Trump can’t tell fact from clear fiction and therefore cannot perform the duties of the office. Make the people of America see the image on the news everyday and make those on his side say out loud if they think it’s fake or real. Half of the masses will never be convinced that he lacks the morality to lead until they’re already in his camps. This is the earliest clear as day moment to act on that which cannot be held to subjective scrutiny or partisanship.

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      So just to be fair, whoever made that tried to illustrate that the 4 symbols - in their imagination - represent “M S 1 3”. Which in itself is ludicrous. And even if they did, that’s still no reason to deport him.

      Anyhoo, Trump’s reply when someone dared try to explain this to him:

      “That was Photoshopped? Terry, they’re giving you the big break of a lifetime. You’re doing the interview. I picked you because, frankly, I’d never heard of you, but that’s OK,” Trump said. “You’re not being very nice.”

      This is everyday tyranny in action. It’s also very dumb and very delusional. Louis XIV levels.

      How is this farce still going on?

      But then, just yesterday I learned a little about El Salvador and their idiot president. Who am I kidding. As long as the people go with it, it’s possible no matter how ludicrous. I still say it’s social media algorithms that got us here.

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      What is weird is that his wife did censor a photo of his hands in on of their photos recently. I feel like this is an easy thing to prove. Who knows. But we should be a bit more skeptical. Not just of Trump but our own sources.

      Why the down votes. If I’m wrong on this, let me know. But let’s not bury our heads on things.

      Even if MS13 he should have due process. That process is where all these questions get answered. Without it we have this shit show. But let’s not let our political vibe cause us to not question things or be skeptical. Nobody should dig in on an issue and deny based on vibes

      I don’t have many social media accounts but is this legit?

      Www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/us-news/kilmar-abrego-garcias-wife-covered-his-knuckle-tattoos-in-old-post-trump-says-101745016615149-amp.html

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        That’s practically dead centre in the photo, you know, the place where people will tend to put text and emojis in the photos they take?

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          That could be it but I don’t know if that explains it well enough. She doesn’t owe any one that doubts her anything. But also she could shut it down with the original photo. Any of it really. If they’re saying these are cover ups, why not show a timeline that proves these weren’t covering anything up.

          What pisses me off is how often I listen to sources on the left that will frame everything weirdly. Then I’ll bring it up and I’ll have someone on the right pull out details they were purposely left out on a story originally. Then I look like it up and sure enough the person on the right are correct and the left focused corners aren’t talking about half the shit.

          I’d just like to see less bullshit from everybody. But it’s driving me that even though bullshit is higher on the right. We’re not far behind and it’s getting worse.

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            Birthers claimed for years that seeing Obama’s long form birth certificate would alleviate their citizenship concerns. Spoiler: it didn’t, they moved the goal posts.

            Once people are identity-level invested in something being true - in this case that deportations are about public safety and not racism, because no way could they or people they respect be racist - sinking time into producing evidence for them is futile. It is no longer about facts, it’s about identity. Sometimes people break out of these self-imposed mental prisons if a main trusted person who helped lead them there loses their trust for an unrelated reason (not one that had become identity-latched). Sometimes being welcomed into a different community that fulfills those identity needs will let them see their previously identity-latched falsehoods as false. But evidence is always futile.

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              How do you know that we’re not invested in that though?

              That’s what I’m asking. I’m not asking to prove them wrong. Why are we not asking “is this true”

              Maybe I’ll wrong, have you seen any one verifying anything?

              Years ago I feel like we did question things and verify things. But lately I feel we are as invested as the trumpets are

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                We’re not asking if it’s true because it doesn’t fucking matter. That’s up to a court and a jury, which Abrego Garcia never went in front of.

                Also, please tell me you’re not asking if the ms paint arial black 12 pt font letters are really on his hands. If you are, I have a bridge I’d like to sell you.