no. but asmongold, even if you dont like him is one of the larger, more influential people out there. Should he be? Is his content that good? Doesn’t matter.
“Who even is that” heavily implies “why should I care” and the answer is: because he has a fanbase of rabid morons incapable of independent thought who will do whatever he says to do. So linux spaces are very likely about to be bombarded with people who hate linux without having ever tried it because asmongold said he didn’t like it, or a bunch of people adopting linux.
It also heavily implies “Im proud of the fact that I dont know who this person is.” Which is just not impressive. “Taylor Swift? Who is that?” indicates you are living under a rock, not that you are cool. And aside from pewdiepie, asmongold is probably one of the youtube gamer names people know.
I’m proud of the fact I don’t know who that is and even more proud that I don’t care if anyone thinks that is not impressive. I hate that I learned who poodiepie is and have yet to meet any fans that weren’t mentally challenged. It is a waste of space in my brain and I would happily live under a rock if it meant I didn’t have to know about the existance of vapid, self-centered, so-called “youtube celebrities”. They add nothing to this world of any value and wouldn’t be missed.
I could see not caring. but actively being proud of it is weird. And asmongold has a lot in common with pewdiepie in that his fans skew heavily towards being morons who will just follow what he says.
And there are plenty of people who are well known who are terrible people. Knowledge isn’t a limited resource, you don’t have to forget something to know that a person is awful. So there is no value in not knowing it.
I believe there is value in it. By not knowing about some negative role model like these youtube personalities, when my nephews are talking about them I can be more believably disinterested if I don’t know who they are. When they attempt to explain the person my continued disinterest helps them realize the person they follow isn’t that great, since they rarely do great things and my nephews might realize that as they search for reasons why they watch them. If I use my time to learn about more positive role models and activities instead, it’s easier to shift their opinions to something better. I can’t just say “X person sucks, don’t watch them” since that usually only further entrenches them in watching the drivel.
an example is when I pulled out my raspberry pi, plugged it into their tv and started playing retrogames, ignoring them while they were talking about some LTT video because i thought it was boring. it wasn’t long before they dropped their conversation and were focused on what i was doing, as I played various games on it. now they seem more interested in learning how to do that, instead of mindlessly watching some idiot.
i know that is a weak argument. i know i can also come up with examples of times my ignorance has been detrimental. like regarding idiotic political figures whom i should have learned more about, to help inform people of why they are bad, instead of sticking my head in the sand until things got a lot worse.
so i see and understand your point that it’s better to not be ignorant about internet celebrities and awful people. i still feel it is better to spend time focusing on better things, hoping that my chosen interests can outweigh my choice to ignore idiots. in the long run it all comes down to opinions i suppose.
https://socialblade.com/youtube/handle/asmontv says there’s over thousand youtube channels with more subscribers than him. He might well be large & influential in his niche, but it’s unlikely that people outaide his niche will know who he is. Do you think you’ve heard of 1,000 biggest youtubers whose channels aren’t about things you’re interested in?
Pewdiepie, by comparison, is the 12th most subscribed channel on youtube. I think you’re underestimating how much more famous that makes him with the general public.
With the “general public” yes. Within the computing and gaming space, he’s pretty influential. I realize that “linuxmemes” isn’t about gaming, so there are a lot of non-gamers here but he is a well known name in his niche, which is PC gaming, which is a very relevant niche. It’s not like he’s one of the 1000 youtubers and runs a makeup channel.
Yes, he isn’t universally well known. But given how well known he is in the niche, and how relevant the niche is, and therefore how likely his niche is to translate into linux users or linux haters, it’s extremely relevant to the discussion.
And I’m not saying “everyone should know who Asmongold is!” anyway. I’m merely saying “he’s not irrelevant, and bragging about being out of touch doesn’t make you cool”.
bro, is it you? are you that streamer?
no. but asmongold, even if you dont like him is one of the larger, more influential people out there. Should he be? Is his content that good? Doesn’t matter.
“Who even is that” heavily implies “why should I care” and the answer is: because he has a fanbase of rabid morons incapable of independent thought who will do whatever he says to do. So linux spaces are very likely about to be bombarded with people who hate linux without having ever tried it because asmongold said he didn’t like it, or a bunch of people adopting linux.
It also heavily implies “Im proud of the fact that I dont know who this person is.” Which is just not impressive. “Taylor Swift? Who is that?” indicates you are living under a rock, not that you are cool. And aside from pewdiepie, asmongold is probably one of the youtube gamer names people know.
I’m proud of the fact I don’t know who that is and even more proud that I don’t care if anyone thinks that is not impressive. I hate that I learned who poodiepie is and have yet to meet any fans that weren’t mentally challenged. It is a waste of space in my brain and I would happily live under a rock if it meant I didn’t have to know about the existance of vapid, self-centered, so-called “youtube celebrities”. They add nothing to this world of any value and wouldn’t be missed.
I could see not caring. but actively being proud of it is weird. And asmongold has a lot in common with pewdiepie in that his fans skew heavily towards being morons who will just follow what he says.
And there are plenty of people who are well known who are terrible people. Knowledge isn’t a limited resource, you don’t have to forget something to know that a person is awful. So there is no value in not knowing it.
I believe there is value in it. By not knowing about some negative role model like these youtube personalities, when my nephews are talking about them I can be more believably disinterested if I don’t know who they are. When they attempt to explain the person my continued disinterest helps them realize the person they follow isn’t that great, since they rarely do great things and my nephews might realize that as they search for reasons why they watch them. If I use my time to learn about more positive role models and activities instead, it’s easier to shift their opinions to something better. I can’t just say “X person sucks, don’t watch them” since that usually only further entrenches them in watching the drivel.
an example is when I pulled out my raspberry pi, plugged it into their tv and started playing retrogames, ignoring them while they were talking about some LTT video because i thought it was boring. it wasn’t long before they dropped their conversation and were focused on what i was doing, as I played various games on it. now they seem more interested in learning how to do that, instead of mindlessly watching some idiot.
i know that is a weak argument. i know i can also come up with examples of times my ignorance has been detrimental. like regarding idiotic political figures whom i should have learned more about, to help inform people of why they are bad, instead of sticking my head in the sand until things got a lot worse.
so i see and understand your point that it’s better to not be ignorant about internet celebrities and awful people. i still feel it is better to spend time focusing on better things, hoping that my chosen interests can outweigh my choice to ignore idiots. in the long run it all comes down to opinions i suppose.
Imagine comparing Taylor Swift to asmongold lol
https://socialblade.com/youtube/handle/asmontv says there’s over thousand youtube channels with more subscribers than him. He might well be large & influential in his niche, but it’s unlikely that people outaide his niche will know who he is. Do you think you’ve heard of 1,000 biggest youtubers whose channels aren’t about things you’re interested in?
Pewdiepie, by comparison, is the 12th most subscribed channel on youtube. I think you’re underestimating how much more famous that makes him with the general public.
With the “general public” yes. Within the computing and gaming space, he’s pretty influential. I realize that “linuxmemes” isn’t about gaming, so there are a lot of non-gamers here but he is a well known name in his niche, which is PC gaming, which is a very relevant niche. It’s not like he’s one of the 1000 youtubers and runs a makeup channel.
Yes, he isn’t universally well known. But given how well known he is in the niche, and how relevant the niche is, and therefore how likely his niche is to translate into linux users or linux haters, it’s extremely relevant to the discussion.
And I’m not saying “everyone should know who Asmongold is!” anyway. I’m merely saying “he’s not irrelevant, and bragging about being out of touch doesn’t make you cool”.
people know who Taylor Swift is tho