It’s like we all saw a horrible fire headed our way
Have you no sense of decency, sir, at long last?
So voting for the people who started the fire is your solution?
In the hopes they had lied about their stated plan to keep that fire burning as long as the Israelis wanted?
When they knew they’d lose the election by stoking that fire and they continued to stoke it anyway? But its the voters who are to be blamed huh. Harris could have won by admitting Israel was engaged in a genocide, about two weeks before election day.
No I dont think your suggestion is logical at all. Its a tired argument and its hostage taking by the DNC. I dont negotiate with far right wing terrorists-- whether they are democrats or republican or other.
Sometimes when given an impossible choice of two murderous outcomes, the correct response is to make no choice, and stand up to smash all the people and systems that made this vote “neccessary”.
Now that the election is over, will you lay on the ground bitching or will you get whats needed done? Its time for you to stop talking about the past and start being a decent human being pushing for a brighter future. Remember when doing the right thing was something we all did? When will that start being present in your mind again?
Doing the right thing is making sure we can stand longer to keep fighting for what’s right, not throwing a fit when you can’t get 100% of what you want. No matter how much you throw a fit, it was not going to help, but you could have done something to make things not worse. All throwing a fit accomplished was virtue signaling.
Now we’re worse off and stand even less of a chance of making progress.
I don’t understand how people thought it was a good idea to throw a fit because the choice was between “the same shit” or “even worse shit”. We needed help avoiding even worse shit. You did not help with your virtue signaling.
No matter how much you throw a fit, it was not going to help
That sounds suspiciously like just blind acceptance that we have no power, will never have any power, and sort of like a suggestion that I should just lay back and enjoy it. And if thats true we need to burn the system to the ground-- no matter the short term pain-- not lend our support to it so it continues year after year. If you’re right, it has to end.
You’re clearly misrepresenting my argument. I’m literally saying that the power we do have is elsewhere. Trying to assert we have immediate power over the current presidential election by throwing a fit is ridiculous.
If you want change, then we need to change our first-past-the-post voting system. Until then, throwing a fit about our limited choices is ignorant.
I’m literally saying that the power we do have is elsewhere
Then you’re literally living in a dreamworld. Politicians dont care what we think except during an election. They dont even care about your patheticly small donations. This been proven without a doubt. FPTP benefits the DNC, so they would never change it unless they are leveraged to do so. What were you going to do, write letters to interns? hold a sign on the steps? It didnt work for Defund, and that was a much more potent cause. You as a dem voter have two short moments of power and leverage, and those were when you voted in the primaries and general.
You were conned into doing exactly what you were told and missed your chance to have any power. If 80% of the dems had voted uncomitted in the primary you bet your ass Biden/Harris would have acted, and Biden stil would have won the primary. But I bet you didnt vote uncomitted did you?
Plenty of time to do the right thing later, you think.
You’ve proven your ignorance. Democrats have already been trying to get ranked choice voting.
It’s absolutely pointless to try to talk to someone like you. You just want to be right, even if it means spouting things that are easily proven wrong.
Yep. That is actually correct. We’ve definitely gotten some progress and getting things we want and need in the face of the right-wing opposition. It’s more and more likely as people continue to work together instead of throwing a hissy fit and virtue signaling. Maybe try working together and you’ll get more of what you want.
The road to success is paved in increments, not all at once. However, by demanding you get everything instantly and trying to sabotage the only group that can stand a chance against the worse option. Then you’re only helping a regime that is actively making things worse and undoing any progress that has been made. Go ahead and pat yourself on the back for that.
But, I’m certain that you’re either intentionally spreading propaganda or just doing so in ignorance that you’ve been manipulated, so no reasonable logic I say is going to make any difference while your head is in the ground. You’ve proven that already by spouting outright falsehoods.
Have you no sense of decency, sir, at long last?
So voting for the people who started the fire is your solution?
In the hopes they had lied about their stated plan to keep that fire burning as long as the Israelis wanted?
When they knew they’d lose the election by stoking that fire and they continued to stoke it anyway? But its the voters who are to be blamed huh. Harris could have won by admitting Israel was engaged in a genocide, about two weeks before election day.
No I dont think your suggestion is logical at all. Its a tired argument and its hostage taking by the DNC. I dont negotiate with far right wing terrorists-- whether they are democrats or republican or other. Sometimes when given an impossible choice of two murderous outcomes, the correct response is to make no choice, and stand up to smash all the people and systems that made this vote “neccessary”.
Now that the election is over, will you lay on the ground bitching or will you get whats needed done? Its time for you to stop talking about the past and start being a decent human being pushing for a brighter future. Remember when doing the right thing was something we all did? When will that start being present in your mind again?
Doing the right thing is making sure we can stand longer to keep fighting for what’s right, not throwing a fit when you can’t get 100% of what you want. No matter how much you throw a fit, it was not going to help, but you could have done something to make things not worse. All throwing a fit accomplished was virtue signaling.
Now we’re worse off and stand even less of a chance of making progress.
I don’t understand how people thought it was a good idea to throw a fit because the choice was between “the same shit” or “even worse shit”. We needed help avoiding even worse shit. You did not help with your virtue signaling.
That sounds suspiciously like just blind acceptance that we have no power, will never have any power, and sort of like a suggestion that I should just lay back and enjoy it. And if thats true we need to burn the system to the ground-- no matter the short term pain-- not lend our support to it so it continues year after year. If you’re right, it has to end.
You’re clearly misrepresenting my argument. I’m literally saying that the power we do have is elsewhere. Trying to assert we have immediate power over the current presidential election by throwing a fit is ridiculous.
If you want change, then we need to change our first-past-the-post voting system. Until then, throwing a fit about our limited choices is ignorant.
Then you’re literally living in a dreamworld. Politicians dont care what we think except during an election. They dont even care about your patheticly small donations. This been proven without a doubt. FPTP benefits the DNC, so they would never change it unless they are leveraged to do so. What were you going to do, write letters to interns? hold a sign on the steps? It didnt work for Defund, and that was a much more potent cause. You as a dem voter have two short moments of power and leverage, and those were when you voted in the primaries and general.
You were conned into doing exactly what you were told and missed your chance to have any power. If 80% of the dems had voted uncomitted in the primary you bet your ass Biden/Harris would have acted, and Biden stil would have won the primary. But I bet you didnt vote uncomitted did you?
Plenty of time to do the right thing later, you think.
You’ve proven your ignorance. Democrats have already been trying to get ranked choice voting.
It’s absolutely pointless to try to talk to someone like you. You just want to be right, even if it means spouting things that are easily proven wrong.
I’ve been “trying to get” a bunch of things I’ll never get, so I understand your disappointment. Hey, maybe next election, eh?
Yep. That is actually correct. We’ve definitely gotten some progress and getting things we want and need in the face of the right-wing opposition. It’s more and more likely as people continue to work together instead of throwing a hissy fit and virtue signaling. Maybe try working together and you’ll get more of what you want.
The road to success is paved in increments, not all at once. However, by demanding you get everything instantly and trying to sabotage the only group that can stand a chance against the worse option. Then you’re only helping a regime that is actively making things worse and undoing any progress that has been made. Go ahead and pat yourself on the back for that.
But, I’m certain that you’re either intentionally spreading propaganda or just doing so in ignorance that you’ve been manipulated, so no reasonable logic I say is going to make any difference while your head is in the ground. You’ve proven that already by spouting outright falsehoods.