• errer@lemmy.world
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      1 day ago

      Not exactly a secret that we’re deploying troops and they’re gonna be there a while

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        21 hours ago

        I’m just worried for the troops. The fuckers sending them are ultimately responsible, but the troops should have been warmed not to expose themselves to danger like this.

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          9 hours ago

          but the troops should have been warmed not to expose themselves to danger like this.

          Wat? Pretty sure they knew what they were getting into when they signed up for the fucking army.

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            Not every body joined to carry out a fascist regimes whims, some joined before and are contracted for years. Some people have no option but the military if they want to have health care for their kids. It’s an unfortunate truth that many good people are in the military because it’s the only way to provide for their family, and a blanket fuck all military members statement shows just how ignorant and stupid you are.

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              3 hours ago

              Every single one of them participate in or abet the acts of aggression, crimes, and atrocities carried out across the many conflicts the U.S. is participating and has participated in. As has been pointed out, they help facilitate the killing of civilians, many of which are impoverished.

              The fact they’re joining for the benefits does not excuse them in any way.

              The very last part of your last sentence is a confession.

            • orc girly@lemmy.ml
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              5 hours ago

              And do you not care about the families and children in the countries they plunder and rape?

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                5 hours ago

                Most people are more worried about their immediate family than strangers. But yes I do care, and fortunately it’s not a call I have had to make but I literally couldn’t have kids if I wanted to unless I joined the military today. Too bad the echo chamber here has never had to make a tough call! Maybe they could relate if they had to struggle and grow up poor.

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                  4 hours ago

                  The “echo chamber” here includes people who lost family and friends to US invasions, f off

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                    3 hours ago

                    So have I dumb ass, on both sides of US invasions. My mother is from Venezuela, and my father is ashamed of what he had to do to provide his children with a better life. That’s not what my original comment was about, I was stating that in the United States if you are poor and want health care and the opportunity to provide for you family your option is the military. Must be nice to come from a country where you have a choice, your privilege is showing.

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              sorry you feel that way. the us has been a terror state since at least ww2 and has terrorized people all over the world for decades. every place they entered was left in shambles and millions of people are worse off and suffering due to the usa’s actions.

              after your statement you are not in the position to call someone “ignorant”

              • innermachine@lemmy.world
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                Ok and where do you live buddy? It is ignorant to act like everybody in the military is there by choice. When the choice is to let your family starve and die of preventable disease, or join the war machine do you see that as a choice? Is letting your family die an option you keep on the table? 2 of my siblings would not be here today if not for my father’s health coverage in the military. Not everybody grew up in well to do families that had options, some took the only opportunities they had and to day that’s a choice is pure ignorance. This helps your children have a choice, instead of a grave stone. And the fascist movement in USA really has taken off in the last decade, go watch a George bush talk when he was president. He sounds like a lefty by todays standards with how far the Overton window has shifted. And no I am not justifying the endless stream of “military operations” the USA has partook in, but to compare what’s going on today to what military action looked like 20 years ago is just silly.

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                  3 hours ago

                  Almost as if there are other jobs out there besides military. Or do those not count?

                  Also, the fact you think Bush sounds like a lefty further highlights your own sheer ignorance.

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                    I said bush sounds like a lefty due to how much the Overton window has shifted. Are u blind to the right wing nationalism that has taken the USA? There are other jobs in not saying that. I’m not in the military. I also don’t have health care, and when I had jobs that offered the family plans were incredibly expensive. The military is sometimes just the only way your going to get healthcare for you kids, especially if you don’t have good education or other skills. I’m a mechanic and it’s hard to get a GOOD family plan without giving half your salary for it.

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                  I am not justifying the endless stream of “military operations” the USA has partook in, but to compare what’s going on today to what military action looked like 20 years ago is just silly.

                  What do you actually know about Korea? Vietnam? Iraq? Yugoslavia? Afghanistan? …

                  Only someone as privileged as a USian could say something so completely wrong.

                  • innermachine@lemmy.world
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                    If your trying to act like what is happening in the USA today is the same as 20 years ago I can only imagine the privelidge you must have to be so naive.