• AnchoriteMagus@lemmy.world
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    6 days ago

    I’m so glad that I immediately go for the “Do Not Recommend Channel” whenever I see him on YouTube. I genuinely think it’s made a positive difference in my blood pressure / stress levels.

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      6 days ago

      It’s just like everyone looked at alt-right young Nazi streamers, and learned all the wrong lessons…

      Literally:

      The show’s name Young Turks has been criticized and called for change[35] due to the original Young Turks political movement in the Ottoman Empire being responsible for committing the Armenian genocide, the Assyrian genocide, and the Greek genocide.[37][36] Alex Galitsky, who works for the Armenian National Committee of America, stated “If a group decided to call themselves ‘the Young Nazis’, and pitched themselves as a disruptor or anti-establishment news outlet, people would be rightly outraged”.[37]

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cenk_Uygur#Controversies

      That’s his uncle that mentored him… Those are the people who shaped his political opinions

      There’s plenty of actual progressive streamers, hell, Kat has an open schedule, and people actually like her.

      The only people who like Hasan, are people who want to piss off people who disagree with them.

      If we’re gonna piss of Nazis, there’s better ways to do it than hanging out with different flavors of bigots and genocide enthusiasts.

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        5 days ago

        The show’s name Young Turks has been criticized and called for change

        And that makes him a literal Nazi? So they’re Turks who can’t call themselves Turks. They’re young but can’t call themselves young. And intemperate comments by his uncle are Hasan’s fault? That’s guilt by association.

        What the article studiously avoids (and I don’t see you mentioning it either) is the reason for the objections of centrist Democrats to Piker’s presence: that he has called the Israeli genocide against the people of Gaza a genocide. It might not be a coincidence that the loudest complaints are coming from Democrats who are recipients of AIPAC funding.

        As for other genocides that happened a century or more ago, someone should ask Piker. Maybe also ask him his view on the US’s genocide against Native Americans, the US’s long involvement in the genocidal slave trade, and while we’re at it, the Holodomor, and why not Julius Caesar’s genocide against the Gauls too. But in the meantime, his position has been consistent on the genocide that’s actually happening now with the US government’s collusion, where a change of a party’s policy might actually make some difference.

        And just to declare an interest: I recognize every one of those genocides as genocides. History is a nightmare from which we’re trying to awake. We should start from facts and not sweep things under the rug. And I’m no great fan of Hasan or Cenk: I prefer podcasters who can better modulate their hyperbole and keep a better lid on performative outrage.

        But if it walks like character assassination and quacks like character assassination, I draw the most probable conclusion.