• barsoap@lemm.ee
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    4 hours ago

    Depends things like shaped window borders for theming, title bars

    All possible. X had some age-old protocol enabling oval and whatnot windows and noone ever used it, whether you use CSD or SSD you can paint with alpha and say “nope, that mouse click wasn’t for me”. So even if logically all windows are rectangular because that makes sense because textures are rectangular and you really don’t want to complicate things at that level, UX-wise you can have fractal borders if you really want.

    in hyprland,

    …anything “in hyperland” is a hyperland problem, not a wayland problem.

    effects, pagers, some automation options, etc…

    All Things compositors can do.

    What I generally miss in Wayland is better mouse automation support,

    Faking input devices is compositor responsibility, for obvious security reasons.

    Java support,

    As if Java and X work well together.

    the ability to have multiple mouse cursors and assign them to different input devices.

    Weston does this, protocols support it, I don’t think it’s much of a priority for other compositors. The most common multiple pointing device configuration is to have both devices control one pointer. My tablet works and the tip is properly analogue that’s plenty of functionality for me (dunno if tilt works by now, blender doesn’t use it anyways).

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      4 hours ago

      You misunderstood totally. I’m not saying it’s not possible. There isn’t a compositor making use of those things, but many X WMs that do.

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        There’s no X WMs that fake input devices, or organise global hotkeys, or a thousand other things people always quote when bashing wayland. You can get bog-standard X applications which do that because X has literally no security model, but the feature set between e.g. KDE on X and KDE on wayland is virtually identical.

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          It’s like you want to misunderstand me. I’m not bashing Wayland. That part of my comment isn’t about WMs and compositors. It’s about how hard it is to make macro that does a few clicks and types a few keys into an app etc… It’s still very hard in Wayland. I’m sure it will get better some day, but we’re not there yet.

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            2 hours ago

            Have a look here. Not sure how they do it the proper way would be to run the desktop environment as a subcompositor of autokey.

            Meanwhile, though, do try CLI automation. It’s the Unix way.