Summary
Stephanie Diane Dowells, 62, was strangled during an overnight visit with her husband, David Brinson, at Mule Creek state prison in California.
Brinson, serving life without parole for four murders, claimed Dowells passed out, but authorities ruled her death a homicide.
This marks the second strangulation death during a family visit at the prison in a year; Tania Thomas was killed in July 2024 while visiting inmate Anthony Curry. Investigations are ongoing.
California is one of four states allowing family visits to maintain positive relationships.
The obvious answer: never. Not because of humanism and all that. But because we cannot trust judges and executioners.
Yeah, this is the right answer.
Also, maybe in 30 years we’ll find a better way to reach out to people and help them.
If you kill that person, you’ll never have a chance.
What about the wife he just killed?
How will killing the husband help the dead wife?
Even among victim families whose perpetrator do receive the death penalty, it doesn’t usually help, and often, it makes it worse for victim families.
Freedom to choose. You dislike freedom?
As written, that’s meaningless. Whose freedom? If you have a point, lay it out clearly.
This is meaningless. You’re disingenuous. If you think everyone in that interaction didn’t make thier own choices you’re an authoritarian coward.
People jump over tiger cages all the time.
Seek help.
Same you’re authoritarian. Straight coward way of thinking. If you need daddy to tell you what’s right and wrong you clearly are an npc.
Did you not read the story? He just killed his own wife, while in prison. It’s not like there’s a chance he was set up by the police. How do you say never?
We’re more than capable of preventing a single individual from causing harm to others without having to kill them. Failing to do so here isn’t justification for introducing the idea to kill them instead.
If we actually had a well run justice system, I don’t think executions would even seem remotely necessary.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_Long_Island_Rail_Road_shooting
Here’s a pretty famous case where there were numerous witnesses who survived the attack.
I have to go now.
What’s your point?
There are a lot of examples on this planet that say “never” without devolving into a cesspool of violence. Maybe take some inspiration from those places.
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The thing about a life sentence is it can be reversed.
Death can’t.
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You can give them compensation, at least.
If they’re dead you can’t make them whole.
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Compensate their families or other next of kin.
I’ll be honest, I believe in prison abolition. I don’t really want to defend the concept of life in prison. We don’t need to lock people up.
But it’s clearly better than killing people.
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This exact same glib argument can be used against your own complaints about life imprisonment, so I’m not even sure what you’re arguing for at this point.
I said, “we cannot trust judges and executioners.” We don’t trust them. No, we don’t trust them to “imprison people for life” too.
But imprisonment is a lesser evil and can be fixed to some extent in the case of fuck up. Execution cannot.
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