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You know he is a much needed anti-toxin, especially when they name a bill after him. Let the healing begin.
Yup. Maybe someone from that religion can explain to you how they make it OK in their head, if they want to. Of course, nobody has to defend their religious beliefs to anybody else, so i hope it doesnt come across like im pressuring anyone.
I can shed some light as an ex-Muslim. There are a bunch of common, disgusting excuses: “times were different”, “girls used to mature faster”, “it was common back then”.
There’re more interesting possibilities though. It’s true that it was a political marriage that was basically forced onto Muhammed. But an extension of that reasoning is that the consummation never happened either.
It’s been a while since I looked at this stuff but I remember that there’s actually also a surprisingly compelling case against her ages being 6 and 9. But it would still be 13 to 16 IIRC. The historical side of this is pretty interesting (like how hadith was compiled vs the quran), but not really worth discussing here.
Anyway, yeah, like every other religion, just a cult that grew too large. Anything but admitting that they’re wrong.
Thanks for the perspective. It’s interesting that the disgusting excuses still exist alongside the “consummation never happened” and “they got the ages all wrong here” excuses. Zealots be zealoting in every religion.
It’s a bit weird in Islam. So some important context first.
Basically all of Islam’s rules/laws and stories come from two sources: the Quran and Hadith. You probably already know of the Quran but it’s what they believe to be God’s words verbatim. Hadith, on the other hand, is basically everything the prophet said or did, as recorded by different people.
The Quran was compiled almost immediately after Muhammed died. But Hadith was compiled 2 centuries after that.
To get to the more positive conclusions, you would need to deny a very specific Hadith narrated by Aisha herself. But we only know that she said that because her nephew said so to his students, who then said so to others… So it’s a matter of the verifiability of that chain of trust. But if you believe that Hadith to be false, it would cast doubt on the rest of Hadith and people are not a fan of that idea.
So instead, most Muslims just accept that he’s a pedophile but get offended when you call him a pedophile.
I’m sure there are a lot of people in that religion that don’t find that acceptable.
I meant “make it OK” like how I was raised Roman Catholic and the church abused/raped children and lied about it, but many of my fellow roman catholics still believe the church to be “of God.” They dont condone the abuse, but despite knowing how systemic it all was, they still remain devout. They somehow make it OK to continue being Catholic.