cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/38674008
The supreme court has issued an emergency order temporarily blocking full Snap food aid payments.
The high court’s order came after the Trump administration asked a federal appeals court on Friday to block a judge’s order that it distribute November’s full monthly food stamp benefits amid a US federal government shutdown.
After that request to block was denied, the Trump administration turned to the supreme court in a further attempt to block the order to fully fund Snap food aid payments.
The application to stay reads: “If forced to transfer funds to Snap to make full November allotments, there is no means for the government to recoup those expenditures – which is quintessential irreparable harm. Once those payments are made, there is every indication that the States will promptly disburse them. And once disbursed, the government will be un-able to recover any funds. Worse, these harms will only compound if the decision below stands.
“Our attorneys will not stop fighting, day and night, to defend and advance President Trump’s agenda,” said attorney general, Pam Bondi
Tells you everything you need to know. And they finally free enough to just come out and say it.
So they want to starve people.
I’ve been saying this for weeks, they want people to riot… they are trying to manufacture a reason to enact martial law…
It really sucks for the people that didn’t vote for this, but for everyone who did or was too lazy to get out and vote… I will be taking great schadenfreude in listening to them complain.
The argument made is saying that if they release funds, the states will spend the money, as intended, on the poorest citizens and there will be no way to recover the costs of feeding the poor. I might be being somewhat controversial here, but a smidgy little extra tax on billionaires?
“If forced to transfer funds to Snap to make full November allotments, there is no means for the government to recoup those expenditures – which is quintessential irreparable harm. Once those payments are made, there is every indication that the States will promptly disburse them. And once disbursed, the government will be un-able to recover any funds. Worse, these harms will only compound if the decision below stands.
“There is every reason to expect that if the shutdown lingers, the court below will not command the government to tap these funds again in December to support Snap – blowing a bigger hole in the budget for the child nutrition programs.”
This is absolute bullshit. Those funds have already been allocated by Congress in the 2023 Farm Bill. The money is already authorized for use for the next few years. They don’t need to “find it” somewhere else, or “get it back” at some future date. It is literally sitting ina find account, waiting to be used.
The only reason these benefits would be held up for any reason during a government shut down, is if the staff in charge of distributing that money are not currently working. That’s what the $6 billion emergency fund is for. Paying the federal employees needed to make sure that money gets to its pre-authorized destination.
They don’t need to “find it” somewhere else, or “get it back” at some future date. It is literally sitting ina find account, waiting to be used.
You’re assuming Trump hasn’t already appropriated those funds and handed them to ICE or his rich buddies. How the hell can he loot the government if courts are allowed to force him to spend money where Congress tells him to spend it?
If forced to transfer funds to Snap to make full November allotments, there is no means for the government to recoup those expenditures – which is quintessential irreparable harm. Once those payments are made, there is every indication that the States will promptly disburse them. And once disbursed, the government will be un-able to recover any funds.
They are emergency funds. This is what they’re there for!
Losing a tiny amount of money from the federal budget is irreparable harm. But starvation? Just fine.
This Supreme Court is a joke. I just heard they’ve ruled with the fascists over 90% of the time.
They could defund ICE and have money to spare.
I think they mean it’s “harm” to not be allowed to starve people…
To their sense of control
If the democrats win and don’t impeach these criminal Supreme Court justices …shit is going to hit the fan
They’ll retake control in the midterms and do fuck all as they always do. Watched this my whole fucking life.
Seriously. Not getting aggressive with Nixon directly lead to trump and this whole criminal administration. Sherman didn’t march far enough.
We really need more AOCs and the other three. And definitely more Mandami’s, but aggressive, in local positions.
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Sitting back here as a Canadian and wondering wtf is wrong with Americans. This okay for most of you? Cause this mf and his minions need justice dealt swift and furiously like NOW. Do you need Canadians to teach you how to circumvent the Geneva Convention or something to get the job done? Jfc unbelievable.
They want riots so they can take control of the cities. We’ve already started voting these clowns out. How would you address this as a lone citizen?
Seriously, it’s goddamn shameful, and painful to watch.
It’s not okay for most of us. We’re trying to fix this but realistically it will take some time. And pain.
That’s not true, most of you voted for this or approved of it by not voting. That’s not to say all of you. There are millions of Americans against this and we support you, but the problem is that the majority are, well, fucked. That’s what needs to be addressed.
So the argument is that “if we give people food, and then they eat that food, then we are harmed because we cannot make them give us back that food that they ate”?
Well… I suppose the public could give them back the food they ate, after they ate it… but it would be smelly…
I always said these people were dumb.
Like the messages on government websites blaming democrats for the shutdown, snap recipients should be directed to the homes of the members of the Supreme Court, to find who is to blame. Ruling on other’s hunger. This is no high court.
After a Boston appeals court declined to immediately intervene, Supreme Court Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson issued an order late Friday pausing the requirement to distribute full SNAP payments until the appeals court rules on whether to issue a more lasting pause. Jackson handles emergency matters from Massachusetts.
What the fuck is Justice Jackson doing ? Fucking I give up on the whole lot of them “Justices” now.
What the fuck is Justice Jackson doing ?
Here’s one analysis:
Jackson gets this application because it’s from the 1st circuit, and she is assigned to initially handle all shadow docket matters from the 1st circuit. By writing this admin stay, she potentially keeps the full court from stepping in and doing it for her. And this way she gets to set the 48 hour limit. This could cause the whole case to be decided one way or another a lot faster.
The supreme court let the trans passport case sit on the shadow “emergency” docket for 48 days. This stay gives the 1st circuit approx the weekend to make their decision, then the 48 hour deadline puts some oomph on the rest of scotus to make their decision.
If Justice Jackson did nothing, and 5 votes on the court intervened to issue a stay at 1 am, then there would be no 48 hour limit.
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God damn you bringing all this rational and logic to a discussion. ~~This is reddit dammit! ~~ I have been informed this is not ::: reddit :::.
Either way, damn you, I just want to be angry! No thinky! Angry!
Thank you so much for the breakdown.
Trying to start a riot to force Martial Law, at least from what I’ve heard.
Of course. Of fucking course. Why the fuck wouldn’t they?
Fuckers.
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