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      In this case, unfortunately, yes. It also cancels after the next census in 2030 and control is handed back to the committee. The expiration date is the only reason I voted yes.

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      It’s not good, but at this point, the President is pushing Republicans to redrawn districts to explicitly favor Republicans, which is explicitly illegal. He should be impeached for this, along with any Republicans who go along with it. But… With Republican control of all 3 branches of government, he will never be impeached and removed. At this point, fighting fire with fire is the only option left.

      So no, it’s not good, it would just be way worse not to do it

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    This was honestly the ballot item I was most concerned about. If we don’t retake the House in 2026 I’d say we’re pretty much cooked, and this at least keeps us in the game.

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        Yeah, but if the dems aren’t progressive enough I won’t bother to get up off my ass to vote to stop fascism. It’ll be the dems fault for not enticing me to vote.

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          So you’re not willing to do the bare fucking minimum to oppose the current administration, and want to blame other politicians instead of using the best tool we currently have in a democracy. Got it.

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              Then them being misunderstood is on them. There’s nothing in that comment that shows they’re being sarcastic. Poe’s law

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                Sure, you’re not wrong. But I think the way the language is used makes it at least possible, and if you look at their other comments, it makes it clear.

                Saying outright “it’s the democrats fault that I won’t get off my ass to stop fascism” just really smacks of satire.

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    Is this gerrymandering? I’m not sure I understand.

    Anyhow, even pro-democrat gerrymandering would be a plus at this point. Until it can be abolished completely.

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      The main webpage for Prop 50 says that the gerrymandering that will come prior to the California 2026 midterm elections is a direct response to Republicans’ gerrymandering in Texas to gain 5 more seats in the House of Representatives. This gerrymandering would not happen if Republicans didn’t do it first.

      Prop 50 also says that these new election districts will be nullified in 2030 with the new US Census.

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      Yes, it is fully gerrymandering. There is no other term for it.

      It sucks but we had to do it. I voted yes, mainly since it plans to self terminate and aims to stop Texas, who didn’t let it’s citizens vote on the same issue.

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      Yeah. Feels bad to vote for something like this, but if it’s between fighting dirty and living with fascism, well… I’m glad we passed it.

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      I heard that it only comes into effect if Texas goes ahead with their shenanigans.

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    Because disenfranchising people is the solution to disenfranchising people. But who knows - this may be the least bad option.

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      They’re welcome to leave and move to a red state. I left a red state and went to a blue one last year. They can do it too.

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      I don’t think anybody sane wanted to go there, but the reality of the right-wing’s willingness to stoop to whatever absurd thing it takes to ensure their power-grab is built to last has left little other option but to fight fire with fire.

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        I think you’re probably right, in the sense that not doing this would probably be even worse, but we’re destroying the town to save it, as the saying goes. Win or lose, there won’t be much left of a very important norm.

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          At least this would give us a chance to rebuild it. If we don’t, we may never have the opportunity. If things settle again, these are the people who would agree to creating some rules around gerrymandering and even consider eliminating it across the country so it can never be used again to try and consolidate power.

          But if we let the Republicans do so without challenge, they will enshrine it and it will never go away.

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          It’s the difference between having a destroyed town and letting it be taken over by fascist that will use their power to both destroy the town and remove any opposition, leading to a situation where you have no power to even fix the town for decades into the future.