• lefthandeddude@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    17 hours ago

    At this point, ICE is just a group of people who harass Latinos based on racist criteria. It doesn’t even have to do with immigration.

    As a white person, I think of the German people who did nothing when Jewish people were gradually stripped of rights, before the eventual death camps, and I’m not actually sure of what to do. I also am not really convinced that there are no Latinos being sent to death camps right now. If there were, would I know somehow?

    My political views are somewhat moderate. I just don’t like racism.

    Is there anything I can do that will have any meaningful impact on protecting Latinos from this racism? I do not consider protests to be meaningful and I am not asking for any suggestions that are illegal, especially since the government probably trolls these posts. I feel like I’m being a bad person by doing nothing.

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      Supposedly that’s already happening. Many of the people that were sent to alligator Alcatraz were never seen again. They weren’t traceable. And yet neighboring countries are reportedly finding bodies washing up on their shores. The running theory is that the US has been flying them out into the ocean, dropping them in there to drown to disappear them. It’s horribly evil, and yet it’s plausible.

      We’re almost to the end of the end of the poem. I fully expect to hear “and then they came for me“ any day now

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        I’m German and when I was in elementary school in the 90s we learned about the Nazi regime. An old woman visited our class to talk about what is was like for her as a child under Hitler. I remember that she said some people just disappeared and noone really knew why. There were rumours about prisons or labor camps but noone knew for sure what happened to the people who disappeared. She only learned about the concentration camps after the war was over.

        I bet in a decade or so we will learn about all the horrors that are really going on right now.

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      15 hours ago

      You could warn your area if you see ICE around on this website.

      Finding and getting involved in a local mutual aid group would be quite meaningful, as it would allow you to meet people who share your same concerns IRL, and be able to plan and organize for how to react in your area. It’s very make a meaningful difference alone, finding a solid group is very important.

      Attempting to unionize your workplace if it isn’t already would be very helpful to further prepare for a General Strike (as they usually have strike funds to make a general strike financially bearable), which is pretty much our last non-violent option to prevent all of this from progressing. You can see how a general strike helped cripple Chile’s government while civil unrest was occurring in this documentary.

      I’d recommend contacting the IWW, who will gladly train you to become an organizer with proven techniques to unionize your workplace.

      Lastly, I’d also recommend checking out the book Full Spectrum Resistance for a more complete guide on how to prepare and respond.

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        https://www.iceinmyarea.org/ wouldn’t let me on the website because I’m using Tor Browser in safer mode and WebGL is blocked (Vercel Security Checkpoint Failed to verify your browser Code 11) and I’m not willing to go on a website like that without using Tor Browser. I really don’t trust anything that doesn’t trust Tor Browser.

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          They’ve been chipping away at Tor browser for a while now. It’s well known that it can be fingerprinted now. I think it was like last year or something where they made a change they lied about and got caught. Eventually enough people had it that someone finally tested the damn thing and demonstrated the flaw. The tor browser people said too bad we’re not changing it. It was something that was intentionally introduced to enable fingerprinting on tor. The network itself seems very good but tor browser itself, not so much

          I’m not saying to stop using tor, but you really should diversify your shit. Look into i2p, set up a reticulum node, get multiple options ready. The great danger of tor is that damn near everybody involved in darknet stuff is using it, which means it’s an incredibly appealing target for the feds who have demonstrated they are not to be trusted

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          It wouldn’t let me there either. Not sure it’s my VPN or my browser, but I figured most people aren’t going to have as intense of a privacy set-up as we do. I also don’t know of an alternative to that site now that the ICE Block app was removed from stores.

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            For all I know, the website could be a honeypot, although I have no reason to suspect that. But I don’t know who the developer is, I don’t know what Vercel is, I don’t know why Anubis isn’t sufficient.

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      Get trained by a local rapid response team. You can’t directly interfere, but by enabling people to exercise their legal rights, you can prevent a significant fraction of snatch and grabs and significantly slow ICE & CBP.

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          Yes. You can:

          • identify ICE/CBP
          • alert the rest of the team
          • blow a whistle to alert those nearby
          • ask to see warrants
          • film what is going on for accountability