Its what MAGA wants. If ICE starts getting shot then Trump will send in the guard.
Its a waiting game. Maybe we can have another election, maybe it could be fair, maybe the dems will take two branches and start impeaching and/or prosecuting. Not likely … the dems probably sold out.
Why wont MAGA learn to assimilate in to the broader culture? They come to us demanding we do things their way instead of learning our way. They want our taxes, attention, and opportunities but what do they give back? They dont create our art, movies, music, shows, books, poems, or science. They dont generate positive revenue in their states. They dont know our constitution or our laws. They wont respect our flag or our troops active or retired. They refuse to pay taxes. They spread disease on purpose. They have the lowest education rates. They have the highest violent crime rates including gun deaths and domestic abuse. They have higher divorce rates and the poverty rate is unreal.
They sort of tried to blend in, camouflage, they rolled along with it, and in fits and starts they threw tantrums about not being allowed to say the (bigoted) things on their mind without being made to feel wrong or looked down on for it.
Then along came Trump and so many of these muted bullies, racists, misogynists, and homophones saw that someone could sa6 those things publicly and not only not be shouted down, but also gain support.
They rallied behind the big bully, because even though he hits them too and takes their lunch money, he makes them feel accepted for their bigotry instead of chastened. Not to mention, they now have a big public banner for their different tribalistic hatreds, a large group that can differ in individual views but generally doesn’t cast aspersions over belittling and dehumanizing people. The club doesn’t all have to agree on anything except that voicing your hateful feelings is acceptable or even admirable.
All of this is stuff that’s been stirring for so long, and of course Trump is just the person who managed to light the fire without getting buried for it. Yet here he is, wielding the power to enrich himself and his cohort, protect himself from punishment for his many past and present crimes, and have people hang off his every word on the planet’s biggest stage. What more could a greedy, narcissistic rapist want?
No, they dont have what they want yet. They want liberals to start fighting back violently so they can sick ICE on them. Persecution by voter registration.
• If I do nothing, MAYBE others will resolve all this somehow, or maybe not and it just keeps gets worse for the foreseeable future.
• If I do something, maybe some good comes of it in the short- or long-term. Probably I will suffer excessive consequences, and most likely the propaganda machine uses it to fan the flames and accellerate the power grabs even more.
Either way could bear positive results. Either way could lead to things getting worse.
But certainly important elemens are not giving up, offering support where and to whom you can, standing up when it counts, and fighting (nonviolently) when you can.
I understand that opinions differ on if and when violent action should be used, and I’m not wise enough to offer any endorsement on that topic. I’m also not really here for any response to the effect of “obviously violence is the only moral option when lives and communities are threatened” or any other conversation about where to draw that line in the sand.
So buy a rifle, find a place to practice with it, and practice every day you can afford to. The best thing right now is to start preparing. Is your pantry stocked for at least a month? Is your water supply dependent on electricity? Right now is time to be building community networks, designating roles and leadership, defining goals and abilities, and practicing marksmanship. If you think you’re going to be able to carry on a guerilla insurgency and also lay down suppressive fire, you’ll be hearing your rifle click by the end of the week. Learn to make quick, accurate shots, and leaving the area immediately. Practice pop up shots, limit scope time, learn to scope with both eyes open. I can’t help but assume so many of the pudding heads screaming for Americans to start killing officers have very little or zero firearms experience and absolutely no tactical or combat experience outside of COD
Gonna be honest, I don’t have what it takes to be on the front lines of any conflict. My body is not made for sustained action. This is medically probably not remediable. The biggest thing I’d be able to do in a firefight where anyone needs me to move around extensively and still be useful is take a bullet meant for someone more capable.
Taking a bullet as a shield is not your best use. Most of the real work will be behind the line. Organizing food, munitions delivery, just being an available part of the structure will be more useful than any triggerman. And as an able-bodied, hot blooded young-ish man, it is my fucking honor to take your place on the front line if you are willing to do the actual hard work of supporting the fighters. My body for yours brother, and anybody else’s willing to commit to the cause. I am really afraid this shit is going to get bloody before it gets better. I hope that Lemmy’s defederated nature allows us to effectively use it as a method of insurrectionist communication. We’re going to need it.
There is a vocal minority that wants to run out into the streets and start throwing bricks through windows, but that is not what is needed right now.
Sadly, we need to let MAGA simmer because they are cooking themselves. The US cannot exist like this, people HATE this country right now and the billionaires can’t afford that as they could get demoted to millionaires.
The small things that sustain me are things like watching the poll numbers fall, seeing specific known Republican politicians who have generally gone along with all this speak out at all, and being reminded that there are a lot of capable people actively trying to keep MAGA from outright winning. We definitely need more of the federally seated politicians and powerful/rich/influential folks taking meaningful stands and/or actions.
We need new leadership from the Dems for me to believe they’re going to deliver accountability after how they handled Jan 6th. But yeah, we can’t play into MAGA’s hands, I’d rather see an election than none.
Its what MAGA wants. If ICE starts getting shot then Trump will send in the guard.
Its a waiting game. Maybe we can have another election, maybe it could be fair, maybe the dems will take two branches and start impeaching and/or prosecuting. Not likely … the dems probably sold out.
I’m so fucking tired of being fearful of what MAGA wants.
They already have what they want!
Why wont MAGA learn to assimilate in to the broader culture? They come to us demanding we do things their way instead of learning our way. They want our taxes, attention, and opportunities but what do they give back? They dont create our art, movies, music, shows, books, poems, or science. They dont generate positive revenue in their states. They dont know our constitution or our laws. They wont respect our flag or our troops active or retired. They refuse to pay taxes. They spread disease on purpose. They have the lowest education rates. They have the highest violent crime rates including gun deaths and domestic abuse. They have higher divorce rates and the poverty rate is unreal.
They sort of tried to blend in, camouflage, they rolled along with it, and in fits and starts they threw tantrums about not being allowed to say the (bigoted) things on their mind without being made to feel wrong or looked down on for it.
Then along came Trump and so many of these muted bullies, racists, misogynists, and homophones saw that someone could sa6 those things publicly and not only not be shouted down, but also gain support.
They rallied behind the big bully, because even though he hits them too and takes their lunch money, he makes them feel accepted for their bigotry instead of chastened. Not to mention, they now have a big public banner for their different tribalistic hatreds, a large group that can differ in individual views but generally doesn’t cast aspersions over belittling and dehumanizing people. The club doesn’t all have to agree on anything except that voicing your hateful feelings is acceptable or even admirable.
All of this is stuff that’s been stirring for so long, and of course Trump is just the person who managed to light the fire without getting buried for it. Yet here he is, wielding the power to enrich himself and his cohort, protect himself from punishment for his many past and present crimes, and have people hang off his every word on the planet’s biggest stage. What more could a greedy, narcissistic rapist want?
It’s a religion being MAGA.
No, they dont have what they want yet. They want liberals to start fighting back violently so they can sick ICE on them. Persecution by voter registration.
The funny thing about having what you want … you decide you want more.
Noone ever stops because they have what they want.
It just sucks being torn between
• If I do nothing, MAYBE others will resolve all this somehow, or maybe not and it just keeps gets worse for the foreseeable future.
• If I do something, maybe some good comes of it in the short- or long-term. Probably I will suffer excessive consequences, and most likely the propaganda machine uses it to fan the flames and accellerate the power grabs even more.
Either way could bear positive results. Either way could lead to things getting worse.
But certainly important elemens are not giving up, offering support where and to whom you can, standing up when it counts, and fighting (nonviolently) when you can.
I understand that opinions differ on if and when violent action should be used, and I’m not wise enough to offer any endorsement on that topic. I’m also not really here for any response to the effect of “obviously violence is the only moral option when lives and communities are threatened” or any other conversation about where to draw that line in the sand.
So buy a rifle, find a place to practice with it, and practice every day you can afford to. The best thing right now is to start preparing. Is your pantry stocked for at least a month? Is your water supply dependent on electricity? Right now is time to be building community networks, designating roles and leadership, defining goals and abilities, and practicing marksmanship. If you think you’re going to be able to carry on a guerilla insurgency and also lay down suppressive fire, you’ll be hearing your rifle click by the end of the week. Learn to make quick, accurate shots, and leaving the area immediately. Practice pop up shots, limit scope time, learn to scope with both eyes open. I can’t help but assume so many of the pudding heads screaming for Americans to start killing officers have very little or zero firearms experience and absolutely no tactical or combat experience outside of COD
Gonna be honest, I don’t have what it takes to be on the front lines of any conflict. My body is not made for sustained action. This is medically probably not remediable. The biggest thing I’d be able to do in a firefight where anyone needs me to move around extensively and still be useful is take a bullet meant for someone more capable.
Taking a bullet as a shield is not your best use. Most of the real work will be behind the line. Organizing food, munitions delivery, just being an available part of the structure will be more useful than any triggerman. And as an able-bodied, hot blooded young-ish man, it is my fucking honor to take your place on the front line if you are willing to do the actual hard work of supporting the fighters. My body for yours brother, and anybody else’s willing to commit to the cause. I am really afraid this shit is going to get bloody before it gets better. I hope that Lemmy’s defederated nature allows us to effectively use it as a method of insurrectionist communication. We’re going to need it.
This sums up exactly how most of us feel.
There is a vocal minority that wants to run out into the streets and start throwing bricks through windows, but that is not what is needed right now.
Sadly, we need to let MAGA simmer because they are cooking themselves. The US cannot exist like this, people HATE this country right now and the billionaires can’t afford that as they could get demoted to millionaires.
The small things that sustain me are things like watching the poll numbers fall, seeing specific known Republican politicians who have generally gone along with all this speak out at all, and being reminded that there are a lot of capable people actively trying to keep MAGA from outright winning. We definitely need more of the federally seated politicians and powerful/rich/influential folks taking meaningful stands and/or actions.
We need new leadership from the Dems for me to believe they’re going to deliver accountability after how they handled Jan 6th. But yeah, we can’t play into MAGA’s hands, I’d rather see an election than none.
Yeah true better to be forceful without weapons, strategic, organized, smart, large-scale and unpredictable.