Good to know you have no idea what you’re talking about. Climate change is already causing serious deaths, now.
Far less than the issues listed to the people affected.
Climate change deathes currently are largely avoidable and it comes up as a relatively small source of death.
You’re nitpicking here to try to ignore the point.
It’s my generation that will be dying because of this.
Nope. No one alive today will witness any kind of apocalypse generation killing event.
Because climate change won’t… ??
You must worry about your house fire first before you fear the flood next month.
Yes, fascism is important. But not nearly as important as fighting climate change.
This is the type of “I’m a priveleged cisgendered straight white person so the marginalized people can be fed to the machine” ass comment I would expect from you.
They’ll come for you eventually too bud.
There isn’t a future to fight for if climate change isn’t blocked, you do understand that, right?
Hysterics don’t make you right. That is in more than 100 years when anyone talking right now is long dead.
Fascism could have you or I in a death camp within our lives, or trigger nuclear war, given it actually did the last time it flared up this seriously, except this time a shit ton of countries have nukes. Nukes? Talk about climate changing.
It could be solved in under a decade if people cared.
You continue to think from a perspective of blame rather than pragmatism.
People are the biggest hurdle for literally every major problem. Learning how the general public is propagandized too, what regulations reinforce and or strengthen the problem, how and which politicians are bought and paid off for to fight the problem and more.
The root cause and key is making the Overton window shift left. It is therefore the biggest problem, even to you, by being in the way for solving your problem as the actual biggest problem.
You don’t seem to actually understand how dangerous climate change is presently. You still see it as an abstract future rather than an awful and worsening present
I completely understand it. You clearly do not understand how bad the other problems I listed are.
You care far more about the rock we float on, than the people on said rock. Everything you say is in service of the rock rather than the people. What has more influence in peoples lives right now? All the things I mentioned.
Other people have good reason to be focused on those first.
I see what happened when voters and people actually cared. The cities changed, improved.
Oh which American cities are these? Are they per chance small mostly urban areas with progressive leaders?
I mean fuck it, I won’t be coy, we all see Mamdani. Somehow you won’t connect the dot’s though.
It proves that propaganda is not some magical convincing force that forces people to think one way, the way you pretend it is.
This is once again you doing mental gymnastics to pretend that blaming people will solve the problem any at all. Blaming people does not work.
Climate change deathes currently are largely avoidable and it comes up as a relatively small source of death.
I’d like to see you “avoid” a wet bulb event in a 3rd world country. These have started becoming an increasingly common occurrence in the last decade or so. Climate change also disproportionately affects poorer countries, the ones no one cares about. Entire archipelagos projected to disappear in decades. So fuck off with your “caring about climate change is for privileged people”.
Nope. No one alive today will witness any kind of apocalypse generation killing event.
Hysterics don’t make you right. That is in more than 100 years when anyone talking right now is long dead.
You do realize that there’s people alive today that will live in 2100 right? And that they will be in their 80’s (those who can talk today), not 100+. Have you seen any graphs on what the temperatures and water levels will be at the current pace? Even optimistic scenarios are hellish.
You are factually wrong, no matter how confidently you say it. I am not insulting your intelligence for your opinions like you seem to do in almost every comment, just informing that you do not understand climate change like you claim to “completely” do. I guess what you actually mean is that it will get bad after you are dead, so it doesn’t really matter.
We’re clearly at a unproductive point in this conversation where you are slinging accusations and we clearly are at an impasse. I think your position ignores the valid perspective of others, you think it outweighs every other position even from people who try to do better just as you claim to.
That seems to be it. I can’t convince you, and you certainly haven’t convinced me.
Ah. So you don’t actually understand the reality of extreme heat and cold events. That… That makes sense how you wouldn’t care. You’ve failed to do basic research.
This is the type of “I’m a priveleged cisgendered straight white person so the marginalized people can be fed to the machine” ass comment I would expect from you.
If I meant it as “welcome fascism” , which I don’t. Fascism should still be fought. You pulling out the “privileged” bullshit again is hilarious when you don’t understand basic science
Far less than the issues listed to the people affected.
Climate change deathes currently are largely avoidable and it comes up as a relatively small source of death.
You’re nitpicking here to try to ignore the point.
Nope. No one alive today will witness any kind of apocalypse generation killing event.
You must worry about your house fire first before you fear the flood next month.
This is the type of “I’m a priveleged cisgendered straight white person so the marginalized people can be fed to the machine” ass comment I would expect from you.
They’ll come for you eventually too bud.
Hysterics don’t make you right. That is in more than 100 years when anyone talking right now is long dead.
Fascism could have you or I in a death camp within our lives, or trigger nuclear war, given it actually did the last time it flared up this seriously, except this time a shit ton of countries have nukes. Nukes? Talk about climate changing.
You continue to think from a perspective of blame rather than pragmatism.
People are the biggest hurdle for literally every major problem. Learning how the general public is propagandized too, what regulations reinforce and or strengthen the problem, how and which politicians are bought and paid off for to fight the problem and more.
The root cause and key is making the Overton window shift left. It is therefore the biggest problem, even to you, by being in the way for solving your problem as the actual biggest problem.
I completely understand it. You clearly do not understand how bad the other problems I listed are.
You care far more about the rock we float on, than the people on said rock. Everything you say is in service of the rock rather than the people. What has more influence in peoples lives right now? All the things I mentioned.
Other people have good reason to be focused on those first.
Oh which American cities are these? Are they per chance small mostly urban areas with progressive leaders?
I mean fuck it, I won’t be coy, we all see Mamdani. Somehow you won’t connect the dot’s though.
This is once again you doing mental gymnastics to pretend that blaming people will solve the problem any at all. Blaming people does not work.
I’d like to see you “avoid” a wet bulb event in a 3rd world country. These have started becoming an increasingly common occurrence in the last decade or so. Climate change also disproportionately affects poorer countries, the ones no one cares about. Entire archipelagos projected to disappear in decades. So fuck off with your “caring about climate change is for privileged people”.
You do realize that there’s people alive today that will live in 2100 right? And that they will be in their 80’s (those who can talk today), not 100+. Have you seen any graphs on what the temperatures and water levels will be at the current pace? Even optimistic scenarios are hellish.
You are factually wrong, no matter how confidently you say it. I am not insulting your intelligence for your opinions like you seem to do in almost every comment, just informing that you do not understand climate change like you claim to “completely” do. I guess what you actually mean is that it will get bad after you are dead, so it doesn’t really matter.
We’re clearly at a unproductive point in this conversation where you are slinging accusations and we clearly are at an impasse. I think your position ignores the valid perspective of others, you think it outweighs every other position even from people who try to do better just as you claim to.
That seems to be it. I can’t convince you, and you certainly haven’t convinced me.
Ah. So you don’t actually understand the reality of extreme heat and cold events. That… That makes sense how you wouldn’t care. You’ve failed to do basic research.
If I meant it as “welcome fascism” , which I don’t. Fascism should still be fought. You pulling out the “privileged” bullshit again is hilarious when you don’t understand basic science
There was no substance in this reply. You haven’t shown knowledge of anything, and havent addressed any criticisms levied.