• Digit@lemmy.wtfEnglish
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    2 days ago

    I got a similar whimsical comment when asking in CRUX’s irc chan.

    It’s not valid though. That casual ageism. Loads of youngsters use such things. Best time to start. Old dogs learn tricks harder.

  • Treczoks@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    So, me having started with Slackware and a 0.97 kernel should be enough to have earned my retirement.

    • EatMyPixelDust@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
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      2 days ago

      I notice a lot of talk about distros without systemd at the moment. But is there a guarantee that the alternative init projects wouldn’t also add this “feature”?

      • Skullgrid@lemmy.world
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        2 days ago

        Depends on their purpose. Devuan is specifically to be debian without systemd and nothing else.

        It’s kinda shitty to install though, I fucked it up. Gonna try again at some point, but it’s not an easy install like mint

        • redsand@infosec.pub
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          2 days ago

          It’s not a compeditor to mint. It’s for server use like cent and debian. I don’t know of any super easy openRC distros for general use.

          • Skullgrid@lemmy.world
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            2 days ago

            Well, from my perspective, simple install processes are not related to what the purpose of the os is meant to be.

              • Skullgrid@lemmy.world
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                2 days ago

                ok. Since you know, why don’t you share this with me so I know what to do.

                I’ve got linux mint on my home’s trashtop. I failed the gui installer from the live usb. I have a debian machine I use as my daily driver.

                Pretend the trashtop is a server. what do I need to do in order to SSH into it in order to install devuan?

      • forestbeasts@pawb.social
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        2 days ago

        Honestly, they seem a lot less shitty culturally in general (less take-over-the-world-y). It’s not a guarantee, of course, but they’re probably less likely to do that.

        Also (and perhaps more importantly), once you’re on any alternative init, you can move between init systems pretty easily (though you may have to rewrite any custom scripts you wrote, sysvinit scripts should be compatible with everything). It’s just the init system you’re swapping out, and not all sorts of random system stuff like systemd’s got its tentacles into.

        We use OpenRC on stock Debian. It actually works pretty well, and I’m REALLY hoping it stays that way.

        – Frost

        • Illecors@lemmy.cafeEnglish
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          2 days ago

          Ditto. I run OpenRC{,-init} on Gentoo and it’s really simple. Even managed to swap my system to systemd to prove intune can be run (that garbage links directly to systemd, unfortunately). Proved my point, it didn’t go anywhere, now back to openrc.

          • forestbeasts@pawb.social
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            2 days ago

            Hah, even after switching to openrc we’ve still got libsystemd0 on our system for some reason, so I bet intune would still work!

            Gentoo looks pretty awesome, I’ve been thinking about trying it at some point.

            – Frost

            • Illecors@lemmy.cafeEnglish
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              2 days ago

              Don’t. It’s a drug!

              Once it clicks how much cruft you don’t even compile in - and as such how much cruft cannot be exploited - there’s no going back.

              The only arch machine I have left is the one for steam - couldn’t be bothered to add multilib to my binhost. But even that seems to be on the path of deprecation as I’ve read this morning about wine releasing wow64 support. I think the day of 100% Gentoo infra in my household is actually getting close!

  • bryndos@fedia.io
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    3 days ago

    raspberry pies basically debian, and they used to be aimed at kids back when they were good.