Independent Senator Bernie Sanders floated Democratic Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez as a potential presidential candidate in the 2028 elections, saying that even though it’s “her decision to make,” she is a “very, very good politician.”

Speaking to Axios, Sanders said that he has been “out on the streets with her” and noticed how she responds when people come up to her. “It’s so incredibly genuine and open.”

Ocasio-Cortez is seemingly positioning herself to run for higher office, whether it is challenging Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer for his seat or to make a run for president.

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    We should run Mamdani in 2028. And before anyone tries to “umm actually” the idea, Mamdani can run for president using the exact same loopholes that Trump intends to use for run for a third term.

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        You’re doing exactly what I warned against.

        Look up how Trump intends to run for a third term. Then you will understand.

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          Lmao

          • Mamdani isn’t eligible to ‘run’ for president. If we’re talking about the dissolution of the constitution, then why are we talking about ‘electing’ him? It would take a coup or rebellion to install him despite being clearly constitutionally ineligible
          • If we actually are talking about a legitimate election, then Democrats could simply adopt his wildly popular policy platform instead of launching some authoritarian bullshit on his bahalf
          • Mamdani is a great-fucking-fit for NYC Mayor. If he ran for president instead, someone would have to take his place who would be way worse for the city. He clearly cares very deeply about NYC, why should he abandon his convictions for some crazy far-flung scenario where he takes the executive branch illegally?

          Libs are so silly sometimes.

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            You ignored what I said and didn’t bother considering how Trump will run for his third term. Since you’re incapable of doing that, I’ll make it simple.

            You use a figurehead candidate, someone who is actually running for the office, but won’t actually make any decisions. They just hold the pen. This is how Putin got around Russian term limits, and it is how Trump will run for his third term.

            Libs like yourself are too focused on the letter of the law.

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              Ok so Mamdani takes control of the DNC and dictates policy to a figurehead? How does he hold any authority? He can’t be vice president either. Trump has floated the vice presidential loophole in order to serve a third term, but Mamdani doesn’t meet the requirements for that for the same reason he can’t be president.

              Again - why not take what made Zorhan successful and apply it to a legitimate candidate? If the democrats are coordinating enough to somehow get Mamdani elected as a puppet-president, couldn’t they also coordinate enough to just enact the type of platform he would support anyway?

              This is so ridiculous, i’m not even sure you’re being earnest. It’s not just a matter of it not being a possible scenario, it’s just not even coherent.

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                Why do you consider this remotely unlikely, let alone impossible? Trump is openly planning to do this exact same thing in 2028. This is the world you live in. Adjust your expectations and plans accordingly. This has even been done before in US history. It’s not some new idea.

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lurleen_Wallace

                As for why? Because politics is more about affect and personality than it is actual platforms. You can’t just copy Mamdani’s platform and have an 80 year old white guy sell it, which is what the DNC would try to do.

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                  Why do you consider this remotely unlikely, let alone impossible?

                  Because Trump is saying he will run as vice president, which is explicitly allowed. Mamdani literally has no plausible/legal pathway to either vice-president or president. The loophole trump is pointing do does not apply to Zorhan. I suppose he could technically run for House Representative and then get voted in as Speaker of the House, but at that point he’d be so far removed from presidency that nobody would buy into this conspiracy that “he’s the real president so vote for this other figurehead instead.”

                  You can’t just copy Mamdani’s platform and have an 80 year old white guy sell it, which is what the DNC would try to do.

                  The DNC would also not just go along with this hypothetical illegal presidential bid where Mamdani is shadow president with a figurehead at the top of the ticket. This is what I’m saying - this isn’t just an impossible suggestion, it literally does not make sense.

                  Because politics is more about affect and personality than it is actual platforms

                  This is so much more of a self-report than I think you realize

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                    And what would stop Mamdani from running for VP? That’s the entire fucking point. Any loophole that Trump could use to bypass the term limit requirement could be used by Mamdani to bypass the natural born citizen requirement. He could use the figurehead method. He could run for VP. He could get the house to appoint him. Etc. Why is this hard to understand? If you can bypass one constitutional requirement for the presidency, you can bypass all of them. 2028 could easily be Trump v. Mamdani.

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      We should run Mamdani in 2028

      I’m going to need to see if he can hang on to NYC while Trump overruns it with ICE agents first.

      Also, kinda waiting to see if 2026 happens at all, or if we get a SCOTUS ruling that says elections are dumb and nothing in the Constitution says a President can’t be dictator for life

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            Mamdani can run under a strict interpretation, just like Trump can.

            Basically you just run a figurehead candidate. Trump would find some big fan of his, someone with no political capital of their own. Someone completely dependent on Trump. That person actually runs for president, but their entire campaign platform is just “I’m going to just hold the pen and sign whatever Trump tells me to sign. He’ll be making the real decisions.”

            This would be completely legal and constitutional. And it’s what Trump intends to do to get a third term.

            But the same mechanism would allow Mamdani to serve as president.

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              Why cant democrats just adopt the policies that make Zorhan so popular, rather than trying to run him as a shadow president or some fascist cult of personality bullshit?

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                    You mistake “should” for “is.” Democrats always have great policies. Kamala had a bunch of them in elaborate white papers on her website. But none of it mattered for shit because she simply didnt have the sauce. It’s not just about having policies, but showing voters you actually care enough about these issues that you’re going to fight for them. Anyone can put a bullshit promise on their campaign site. But voters want to feel that you actually believe in something and will fight for it. Democrats repeatedly make the mistake of thinking elections are some rational selection of policy menus. But that’s not how elections have ever worked. Charisma, passion, and conviction matter far more than whatever promises you put on your campaign site that will quickly be forgotten after the election.

                    Like, seriously, do you not realize that politics is primarily about heart? The ancient Greeks, Caesar, or Napoleon could have told you that. Human beings are not rational actors that choose based on campaign promises. This is politics, not a contract negotiation. You have to speak to the soul. That is what matters more than anything if you actually want to win an election rather than just feeling good about yourself.

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                    I mean, this has always been true. You move people by speaking to the heart, not having a white paper on your website. The Democrats are just a bunch of debate club nerds that have forgotten how politics actually work.