Polish far-right MP sparks outrage by displaying Israeli flag with Nazi swastika in parliament, accusing Israel of genocide in controversial statement.

  • phutatorius@lemmy.zip
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    10 hours ago

    But it is a simple fact that the Israeli citizens, who are mostly Jews

    Self-selected sample. Some Jews are Israelis, some Israelis support Likud or even worse parties.

    I’ve met quite a number of Israelis who are decent people. Conversely, I’ve met a few Palestinians who advocate brutal, evil actions against Jews. Israelis have disproportionate power in the conflict, and therefore bear more responsibility as the occupiers, but the notion of collective guilt is a sinister one that should be avoided.

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      9 hours ago

      I always take every person as an individual, and never judge them on their race or any other demographic group they may be part of (except MAGAs, they are automatically awful), but as a population, Israelis do not have much of a defense:

      A June 2025 poll found that a significant portion of Jewish Israelis support extreme measures in Gaza, with 47% supporting a “war of extermination” (killing all inhabitants). Other polls show 82% support transferring Gazans out and 76% believe there are no innocent people in Gaza, reflecting widespread support for actions deemed by scholars as genocide

      So 47% simply want extermination, and 82% support chasing them out, which would amount to same thing for many of them. And 76% claim they are all guilty of something, rationalizing anything bad that might happen to them.

      Sorry, obviously there are some good Israelis who see the inhumanity of their nation’s behavior, but as whole, they overwhelming support their nation’s atrocities, and nearly half would go much, much further if they could.

      Who would have thought that their takeaway from the Holocaust would be to “pay it forward?”