• UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    Communism Killed 100 Zillion People

    Now the massive population of China and Venezuela and Vietnam and Cuba and California are going to take over the world

    No, they aren’t doing Real Communism. That’s just Authoritarian State Capitalism.

    Yes, we have to fight them. That’s why we need the western governments to spend trillions of dollars on private military services.

    We have to kill all 100 Zillion of them. Because they’ve been infected with the Mind Virus of Communism.

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    Communist logix

    we need to abolish private property so everybody has equal power.

    we class of people to maintain public ownership

    After all, how can we enforce public ownership without a more powerful class of enforcers?

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      we need to abolish private property so everybody has equal power.

      Abolishing private property isn’t about equalizing power, necessarily. It’s to end Capitalist production, which is necessarily exploitative and results in Monopoly Capitalism, aka Imperialism. Abolishing Private Property allows us to produce based on needs, not profits for a few individuals.

      we class of people to maintain public ownership

      Communists advocate for the abolition of classes.

      After all, how can we enforce public ownership without a more powerful class of enforcers?

      That’s a pretty terrible misreading of Communist structures. Communists advocate for abolition of the State, via creating a government as an “administration of things,” similar to how the Post Office functions, but for all of production. The goal of protecting the revolution is done by the Proletariat, the most advanced among them making up the Vanguard. There isn’t a separate “class.”

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    You do understand we can make loads of those about communism as well?

    Capitalism has caused untold horrors.

    Have you seen what horrors communism has caused, though? Ever tried looking at history? Maybe read up on the great Chinese famine? Maybe read up on how communism started in Russia? You know, maybe watch the movie “the Chekist”, great movie for those under the illusion that communism is a great thing. If your stomach can survive that movie, then yeah, you’re a diehard who is perfect for the next regime

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      You do realise none of the examples you brought up are actual communism. Theyre all bad attempts that were taken advantage of.

      Thats like saying religion in general is bad because christianity ruined it

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        15 days ago

        You realize that what you’re saying is basically “communism isn’t bad, all communist countries that failed just were communism that was being taken advantage of by assholes”

        The exact same thing can be said about capitalism

        Done well, with laws limiting it correctly, capitalism mixed with socialism sounds nice. Limit how much capital a single person can own and control using taxes, use those taxes for a social system where all the basics have been taken care of. Free healthcare, education, baosc housing, basic food.

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          Yes of course I realize it and Im often saying exactly that. The problem is when capital equals political power, which results in a downward spiral where as large a portion of the population as possible is kept at the bare minimum of survival for the benefit of the few.