I would say, finally, in an era of bitter political struggle even in the free software world, finally we see a good humoured hacker joke again
I would say, finally, in an era of bitter political struggle even in the free software world, finally we see a good humoured hacker joke again
What did Ladybird do?
Well, as far as i have observed this (from safe distance, far, far away…) Andreas Kling rejected a proposal from a new contributor to change documentation to use gender neutral terms… and as usual with those things, people tend to get mad.
Edit: A simple to the people downvoting: Why?
Kling has promoted the nonsense white replacement conspiracy theory, whined about “leftist activists”.
The answer is because just a tiny bit of looking at kling - just like with DHH - will reveal so much more far-right attitude and behavior beyond kling rejecting an offer to fix the poorly written documentation.
This is news to me. I’ll look into them saying that and change how I talk about this event. Because before knowing this I would’ve described it similarly as the other person. But yeah, any grace I was willing to extend goes away if they’re parroting white replacement.
https://nitter.net/awesomekling/status/1874518295350837401
https://nitter.net/awesomekling/status/1969350008538370216
Lets combine that with the contributing.md here as a response to “Your docs could be written better, I can do that”, and how he stands with DHH (note Lunduke there btw), which was a response to DHH+Ruby…
Well it kind of paints a picture. A very specific one, imo.
Lunduke, the video of the post, is also a pretty notably tech right wing, which is why I mention to note that earlier.
I will say, I think Kling hides it better than DHH, same with Vaxry, but… yeah its pretty small and specific circles that seem to gather.
Yucky 🤮
Yeah.
It can get real ugly in tech sometimes, and I really hate seeing it.
For a long time I considered tech the more inviting and accepting bunch, but that has definitely changed over time. There’s some real gross stuff out there.
I am not involved in the Ladybird project, do not really follow the development or the community thereof in any close fashion, so i do not want to take any sides here. What i can say for sure after spending ~ 30 years online is, that the net often amplifies drama beyond any rational measure… so, until i find the time and energy to look into that (unlikely) i will stay with a neutral “oookay…”
As someone who has been online since the late 80’s (BBS) and early 90’s (internet), I’m well aware of how things can be amplified.
However, this does not require in-depth review. These are things you can discover with a cursory search that would have taken less time than writing that comment, FYI. I don’t think anyone is sitting here suggesting Kling has grand plans for a gassing center, just that he promotes far right conspiracy theories and other hard-right ideology. This is a simple, easily verifiable statement.
Just so you know, this can come across condescending. I’m not going to say that was your intention, but that is absolutely how it would be read.
Just to clarify: It is not meant that way, it is meant as an “Okay, i understand what you say but i will take anything i read online with a truckload of salt - no offense”
No worries, like I was saying its just how it reads, I’m not offended in the slightest
Bruh
Lmao there’s actually something kind of hilarious about a person trying to push gender neutral terms into documentation for a program called “Ladybird”.
Did they want the project to be renamed to “Lady/Man/Thembird” too? /S
It wasn’t for Ladybird. It was for SerenityOS.
The irony youre laughing about isnt there.
So wait, what does any od that have to do with Ladybird? The comment they replied to was literally about Ladybird… Ooooookay then.
Ladybird started as a SerenityOS browser, and is now being made standalone.
Same (problematic) developer.
Ah, thanks!
One joke
For some, sure. For me, no… I genuinely feel bad for anybody who’s head is so far up their ass that they fail to see the humour around the irony here.
I am also genuinely confused as to how there can be documentation for a web browser that has gendered terms in it in the first place… Aside from the browser name, what other gendered terms would there be?
For example developers or users could be referred to with a default male pronoun (if the user wants … he can …) when, and that might surprise you, women and queer people do exist and might even use browsers or develop software. There’s no need to be exclusive.