My kneejerk reaction was “it’s not going to do much” too, but I’ve kind of mulled it over and I’m kind of inclined to feel more charitable towards the Portland stuff.
What did the Trump administration want when it was sending National Guard out? Images of conflict, material that they could use to show that there was some dire threat and dangerous criminality that the administration was handling. They got footage of a frog air-humping and some nude bicyclists that’s basically useless for that.
Looking at Fox News’s front page, they have:
Emergency flights diverted from Portland hospital amid ‘laser party’ threats at ICE facility: report
and
Portland mayor orders removal of police tape despite federal demand for perimeter at ICE facility, report says
Which I think even the most die-hard MAGA fan is going to have a hard time getting too worked up over.
And it did accomplish some of the goals that a protest in that it helped build make visible that there were people who did object to what was going on.
I’m not sure that it was the absolute, optimal thing to do, but it might have been reasonably-canny.
I’ve been waiting for this moment for years. I knew that when Oregonians got serious about protesting trump, it would be a bunch of geared up military vs a bunch of naked unicyclers. And you just can’t sell that as threatening.
On the one hand I think you could be right, but on the other hand, the average maga idiot has thought of portland as being “burnt to the ground” and non stop rioting for the last 5 years. Which makes no sense obviously. I dont think they will be rationalizing themselves out of a position that was irrational to begin with
Well, any event could be “the straw that breaks the camels back” for someone who is apathetic about politics or supports trump. No single protest or action is going to cause millions of people to suddenly flip, it’s going to be more like a slow trickle.
(Of course, you can argue all day about it not being quick enough, or it not accomplishing its goals in time, but it’s not like other methods would be particularly faster)
Where exactly can you point out my personal complicity?
Clearly you’re just a troll. That’s why you troll around these chats and post nothing but anger and hostility in your comments, demanding people do more but giving no real solutions on what they should be doing, all while you yourself do nothing but berate others online. It’s pathetic and makes me consider you nothing more than a paid Russian propaganda machine.
All this does is show how miserable you are in your own life.
Because you advocate for ineffectual solutions against brutal violence. You want to know a fun fact about Gandhi? He offered medical assistance to the soldiers of the British Empire. Pacifism in the face of evil is bad enough, but browbeating people and sucking all the air out of the room with disgusting antics is complicity. Don’t bother trying to hide it, because the double standards of when liberals choose to roll over and show their belly and when they hiss and scratch is pretty goddamn clear!
I see a lot of yapping and double standard. Where is your effort? I just see you’re doing a lot of browbeating on people who are doing something while all you do is criticize them online and attempt to suck all the air out of the room, according to your standards you’re complicit of genocide.
I think any form of protest is the most patriotic thing you can do. And I mean, might as well dress up as a frog or streak while you still have those freedoms, those in these other countries don’t have that freedom.
Haha I’m sure these misogynistic assholes didn’t mind the tits. Maybe liked the penis too.
My kneejerk reaction was “it’s not going to do much” too, but I’ve kind of mulled it over and I’m kind of inclined to feel more charitable towards the Portland stuff.
What did the Trump administration want when it was sending National Guard out? Images of conflict, material that they could use to show that there was some dire threat and dangerous criminality that the administration was handling. They got footage of a frog air-humping and some nude bicyclists that’s basically useless for that.
Looking at Fox News’s front page, they have:
and
Which I think even the most die-hard MAGA fan is going to have a hard time getting too worked up over.
And it did accomplish some of the goals that a protest in that it helped build make visible that there were people who did object to what was going on.
I’m not sure that it was the absolute, optimal thing to do, but it might have been reasonably-canny.
Also they can’t say naked people were threatening them.
I’ve been waiting for this moment for years. I knew that when Oregonians got serious about protesting trump, it would be a bunch of geared up military vs a bunch of naked unicyclers. And you just can’t sell that as threatening.
“He was pointing something at me, your honor. I couldn’t be sure it wasn’t a weapon.”
“Your honor he was packing heat! No he didn’t have a gun.”
On the one hand I think you could be right, but on the other hand, the average maga idiot has thought of portland as being “burnt to the ground” and non stop rioting for the last 5 years. Which makes no sense obviously. I dont think they will be rationalizing themselves out of a position that was irrational to begin with
Well, any event could be “the straw that breaks the camels back” for someone who is apathetic about politics or supports trump. No single protest or action is going to cause millions of people to suddenly flip, it’s going to be more like a slow trickle.
(Of course, you can argue all day about it not being quick enough, or it not accomplishing its goals in time, but it’s not like other methods would be particularly faster)
Yeah just keep pointing out their hypocrisy while they shovel another twelve hundred people’s remains into unmarked graves why don’t you
WTF are you contributing, exactly? Put up or STFU and let yourself feel a fleeting moment of hope, FFS. 🖕🏼
It’s okay this guy is miserable - kept making comments on other Portland posts too about the naked cyclists. Clearly just jealous.
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Where exactly can you point out my personal complicity?
Clearly you’re just a troll. That’s why you troll around these chats and post nothing but anger and hostility in your comments, demanding people do more but giving no real solutions on what they should be doing, all while you yourself do nothing but berate others online. It’s pathetic and makes me consider you nothing more than a paid Russian propaganda machine.
All this does is show how miserable you are in your own life.
Because you advocate for ineffectual solutions against brutal violence. You want to know a fun fact about Gandhi? He offered medical assistance to the soldiers of the British Empire. Pacifism in the face of evil is bad enough, but browbeating people and sucking all the air out of the room with disgusting antics is complicity. Don’t bother trying to hide it, because the double standards of when liberals choose to roll over and show their belly and when they hiss and scratch is pretty goddamn clear!
I see a lot of yapping and double standard. Where is your effort? I just see you’re doing a lot of browbeating on people who are doing something while all you do is criticize them online and attempt to suck all the air out of the room, according to your standards you’re complicit of genocide.
I think any form of protest is the most patriotic thing you can do. And I mean, might as well dress up as a frog or streak while you still have those freedoms, those in these other countries don’t have that freedom.
What a 🧌
You can’t articulate why this should give anyone hope, all you can do is scold them.