• Destide@feddit.uk
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    Whole lot of military aged men coming back with experiences of being abandoned, left to die, ordered to die and seeing through the veil… Enjoy

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    242 killed by returning soldiers

    The six-month battlefield stint didn’t diminish Azamat Iskaliyev’s appetite for violent revenge against women.

    The 37-year-old was sentenced to nine-years in jail after he killed his wife by stabbing her in his car in the summer of 2021 because she wanted a divorce.

    Soon after returning to civilian life, he knifed an ex-girlfriend more than 60 times in the shop where she worked in October 2024 after she rejected his advances.

    For that crime, he was jailed for more than 19 years, according to court records in the city of Saratov.

    This case is one shocking example of the social problems that could await Russia as thousands of prisoners turned soldiers return home following an eventual end to the war.

    Verstka, an independent Russian media outlet, reported that by October 2024 almost 500 civilians had become victims of soldiers returning from fighting in Ukraine.

    The report said at least 242 people had been killed, and a further 227 were gravely injured, citing data from Russian court records.

    Russia about to perform the miracle of becoming an even shittier place.

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      Russia has a ton of practice at becoming an even shittier place.

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        It’s like their thing.

        It’s actually kind of mind boggling. Lenin knew this was a thing and took all sorts of steps to correct it, but his mistake was demanding it to improve by force. “We’re making your lives better now, or else.”

        I mean, shit, a big ass group of armed dudes on horses show up in my cold ass disconnected village and they say we need to do x, y, and z to improve our lives or else? Yeah that’s sus.

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          It’s almost like all authoritarian government is actually a bad thing

          Looking at you, China, USA

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              Not really. Actual democracies have incentives to make things better for the majority of people. And the easiest way to do that is to break up monopolies (especially in media), tax the rich, and then invest heavily in education.

              Coincidentally, the way to kill a democracy is to do the exact opposite.

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                Show me a state that has done any of this to great sucess? Even democracies don’t seem to have much stay past two hundred and fifty years.

                A state always ends as authoritarian tool used against the people it persecutes the most. Very snow ball effect like.

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                  Yes, states end up authoritarian when the people give up on democracy. You seem to be using this as an argument to encourage people to give up, but that’s just self fulfilling prophecy.

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      There is some irony is that the main part of a public sentiment in favor of Putin is that there wouldn’t be another 90s era of violence and economical instability as long as he is in power. Well, the economy is somehow stable in how it degrades, but the amount of street violence climbs on. Out of last three times I took a fight in my block, first was in ~2008, last two happened in 2024, both with dead drunk proud boys in vomited over camo clothes, asking me if I served. It’s not yet the 90s level of chaos, but I can’t imagine having a daughter there. Many, as I’ve heard, share the same anxiety, but nevertheless can’t figure out who created that problem in the first place.

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        That’s the background for the story: Russia sent their convicts to war in trade of a “get out of jail”-card.

        The guy was in jail for killing his wife. He took the deal and was sent to war. He got shot, got sent home as a free man, and immediately started killing people again.

        It’s not a single case. It’s likely that convicts are taking the deal, not just to get out of jail, but also so they can go back and get revenge over those that put them in jail in the first place.

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    The only thing that he’s actually good at is having powerful propaganda machinery that would have left Brezhnev deeply envious of.

    Otherwise and outwardly, he looks unfazed at some military setbacks, but he still have legions of Black Hundred fanatics having bought the concept of Russia as the center of the world.

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    Wait, are there any convicts left? The have casualties in the tens of thounds per month, I would have guessed they were the prefered ones…

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      The have casualties in the tens of thounds per month

      It’s been a joke for years now that if Ukrainian kill counts were accurate, they’d have decimated the entire Russian army multiple times by now. Russian media has made similar claims of Ukrainian armed forces.

      Both national media are doing the Vietnam Kill Count rhetoric to say they’re winning a fully Pyrrich War.

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        Jep, except according to their own recruitment claims (which are naturally also off), they either have casualties in the 10s per month, or much more troops in Ukraine than anyone can cofirm.

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    I thought the point was to get them killed as fodder before they could return home.

    They maybe get a few Ukrainian kills in, and no longer have to pay to incarcerate a person.

    They can’t even get that right?

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    Good. He can end all of this with one sentence. However, the consequences will be felt in Russia for a generation to come, that 1.5 million he sent to be killed will be missed.

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      Not only in Russia, unfortunately. Irreversible damage has been done to Ukraine, and of the reversible not much will ever be reversed I fear.

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        At least Ukraine can show that some positives have come out of the war for them, too. Their bonds with Europe have strengthened, their national identity has been forged in fire. I’m not saying it wouldn’t have been awesome if the war had never happened, or that it was a net benefit, but at least they are coming out of this with some real tangible benefits in addition to the tragic losses.

        Russia gets nothing and loses everything.

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          identity forged in fire

          Ukraine is a strong runner up for hating russia. Poles can almost see them over the horizon behind them.

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    Everyone here jumps on the band wagon, but seriously, 500 is nothing. It will do absolutely nothing. He could not care less.

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      The 500 number is the number of victims from returning soldiers as of October 2024, not the total number of incarcerated soldiers in service as your comment implies.

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        Yes, but that is nothing. They loose 1000 soldiers every single day. Why should they care about a few (Russian) victims per month extra? Putin does not fear that at all. It is so irrelevant he might not even know about it to begin with. Let alone destabilizing the whole society, that is pure nonsense.