• tal@olio.cafe
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    4 days ago

    I kind of suspect that it’s not safety driving his concern — this isn’t exactly something that would warrant state-level concern — but I do think that it’s a bad precedent to be modifying street markings for political reasons.

    • I doubt that this particular incident is likely all that risky, but if it becomes normalized to modify street markings, someone sooner or later is going to do something that they think is clever and really does muck up drivers.

    • This stuff goes both ways. If you have the left modifying street markings and it’s let stand, it’s not as if streets are some sort of left-exclusive forum. You can be pretty sure that if this sort of thing is let stand, then the right is going to do so too. I’m pretty confident that if someone started painting anti-LGBTQ markings on streets, plenty of people here would be pretty unhappy. I don’t really want political discourse to wind up being who is willing to throw more graffiti down.

    It should be possible to find plenty of places in Austin that are okay with putting up signs or murals — things that aren’t street markings — that are pro-LGBT messages. That avoids the whole issue that they’re arguing over.

    kagis

    https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2025/08/inclusive-church-turns-hateful-graffiti-into-pride-mural-we-make-beautiful-things-out-of-the-dust/

    After an LGBTQ±inclusive church in Austin, Texas, was vandalized on Thursday, the community came together to transform the act of hate into something beautiful.

    The vandals tore down the Pride flag at Life in the City UMC and graffitied “Pride was the 1st sin” on the front of the building. Afterward, volunteers joined the church for a “creative restoration project” to transform the graffiti into a mural featuring two Progress Pride flags flanking the church doorway.

    I really think that this is a better approach if one wants to put out a message.

    EDIT: Also, on purely-pragmatic grounds, I suspect that the road surface is probably about the most wear-heavy place to paint something. Like, paint something on a wall, and it doesn’t have vehicle tires tearing it up and requiring frequent repainting to look decent.

    EDIT2: You can even see a mural on a building about ten feet behind the rainbow crosswalk in the article’s picture. Which one looks in better condition to you, the crosswalk or the mural?

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      I think something people might be missing here with painting the crosswalk is that paint can make the crosswalk much more visible. Streets murals, and crosswalk paint can cause drivers to slow down. Going further paint can be used to create an optical narrowing effect which causes drivers to subconsciously be more cautious and thus slow down. Slower speeds makes streets safer which directly saves lives. It’s not just political, it’s proven - Look up daylighting and optical narrowing.

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        In general agree, the small counterpoint is that it makes the surface slicker – so long stretches is bad. Within the crosswalk should be fine, I just wouldn’t make a 40ft painted stretch in front of the crossing, you know? Sudden change in grip is bad.

        (This is anecdotal, I assume it’s feasible to make a sufficiently grippy paint, it’s just something I notice when driving)

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                Your vibe is “reads really far into things without actually explaining what they think is going on”

                Does my post not acknowledge, in the plainly written text, that there’s likely other varieties that are appropriate?

                So I ask again, what argument are you trying to make, emphasis on the trying?

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                  “Texas governor” “rainbow walk way” it’s a fucking stretch to even begin to consider this mandate came from a safety concern and not a culture war concern. It’s a further stretch to then hypothesize on the consistency and texture of the dried paint. Trying to validate this as a realistic safety concern in a state that regularly cooks/freezes residents to death is comical and horrible.

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                    It makes the road surface slicker, as I said.

                    Nowhere did I support Texas

                    Nowhere did I say the way that crosswalks are is bad

                    I said maybe having a slicker than usual stretch of road leading up to a crosswalk would be bad, which isn’t what’s happening

                    What’s more, you literally have a response next to mine on this subthread where you are clearly in agreement with me.

                    https://vger.to/lemmy.myserv.one/comment/16401772