State Rep. Laurie Pohutsky’s account was cheered by the left-leaning protestors and condemned by right-wing social media accounts.
The 36-year-old Democrat said the surgery was a personal decision she had been considering for a few years and was finalized by Trump’s election. She wanted to validate the fears other women might have about access to contraception by sharing it.
She told The Associated Press that she has received threats since speaking this week, referring at least one of them to Michigan authorities. The Associated Press reached out to Michigan State police for comment.
“I don’t fully grasp the level of animosity that people have about this,” Pohutsky said.
I like how “‘libs of tiktok’ posted a thing” is just immediately made into a story now.
I’ve had a vasectomy. Come at me, fascists.
Cool. But why advertise it?
they don’t actually care about making babies. what triggers them the most is women making decisions for themselves
Some of the craziest do care about making babies. They think the white race is being outbred into extinction. They are fucking nuts.
Ask them if being a minority a bad thing? Their mental gymnastics almost causes them aneurysms.
Yet they fail to realize the solution is to make it more affordable to have babies
Helping others sounds like communism.
If you make it more affordable then the poors (brown people) will have more babies and that’s the opposite of what they want.
I will happily do my part to help along white genocide
Equal-opportunity genocide, just as the founding fathers intended.
It sure ain’t, but if we ever manage to interbreed away the very concept of race, then good riddance. Us white people were never special.
Well, we’re good at vitamin D during gloomy winter months. That’s about it.
If they hate non-whites so much they should actually encourage “race mixing”. I am a brown Asian and I have many cousins who are white. Basically pale white skin and blond hair. Just after two generations of mixing with white people most Asian features are gone only people who grew up with hapas can see that they are mixed.
In a white majority society “race mixing” will lead to more white people not less.
The problem is, they see white blood as “pure” and non-white blood as “tainted”. It doesn’t matter if your cousins are white-passing; in their eyes, they’re still lesser beings because they share heritage with you.
It’s a really fucking gross ideology.
It also leads to healthier offspring too, but that’s another story.
I have a buddy who has a baby with a very dark black woman and the baby popped out as white as a snow flake, blue eyes, blonde hair. Its wild, whitest looking kid I have ever seen.
Oh they want more babies alright. They especially want more unwanted, orphaned, and abused children. People raised without support or guidance have limited options and make for ideal blue-collar workers who are less likely to band together in revolt.
true, capitalism shits its pants over a declining birthrate, but still, babies will happen regardless. what they can’t tolerate is women going around giving other women ideas about any kind of self-autonomy or control.
in other words, they can’t force people to get pregnant YET, but they’ve always been able to force women to do as they’re told-- hence the threats over women choosing to sterilize
Also, readily available cannon fodder in the likely war to come.
I won’t disagree with you, but I think there’s something else going on also.
They’re really into symbols of allegiance and obedience. Once something becomes “officially” a bad thing, they have to show their loyalty by attacking it. Using language in a certain way, not wearing face masks, being officially Christian, being officially anti-trans/anti-woman, not watching the wrong news sources, watching the right news sources… they want to feel comfortable that they are part of the tribe, and you are too. If you make even a single decision that isn’t the official tribal decision, they’ll get wild and suspicious and angry towards you.
I think that’s what’s going on here. What she’s doing isn’t contraception (strictly speaking) or abortion or transgender surgery… but it’s close enough to those things that she’s showing she’s not part of the tribe. And she’s a Democrat. So what do you do with people like that? You fuck them up because they are the enemy.
If you’ve been close to a culture like this you will have seen it in action, how they attack in order to keep everyone in line.
It starts young, too. These exact same mechanisms are used and reinforced in schools, both by administration and by students.
Bullies thrive on ganging up to attack those who are “different.” Ever wonder why school admin does jack shit about bullying? Part of it is because when a group of kids bullies another for not being like everyone else, they’re reinforcing the administration’s desire for kids to fall in line. A kid who blends in and stays quiet is favored by both groups for the same reasons - the quiet kid doesn’t challenge anyone’s authority.
Yeah.
I don’t really know, but what it looks like to me is that humans have some ugly wiring to figure out who’s “supposed” to be a boss, and who’s supposed to be a peon. And they’ll get upset if someone is behaving outside of their assigned role.
It’s why the Trump people think it’s normal for them to bully or harass or silence someone, but it’s all of a sudden a crisis when someone does it to them. It’s why no one really minds if someone is getting bullied in school, but then if they start fighting back, it’s a crisis.
I won’t say that the wiring did not originally have a good purpose, but it feels like in the modern environment (with less urgent threats to our safety which demand tight-knit cohesion and organization to the tribe, and more loose interactions with a wider world of millions where there’s no opportunity for checks and balances to come into who’s “supposed” to be treated like the boss), it needs to go.
classic “us vs them” cult mentality, see also JW, scientology, LDS, etc etc
Yup. You see the same damn thing happening in churches, workplaces and institutions. The powers-that-be, whether capitalistic or morality-based, just want replaceable cogs for their machines.
I once heard a preacher tell his congregation that freaks were not welcome in his faith. I guess he forgot all about Ezekiel, who cooked his food over cow dung and had some of the wildest visions recorded, or Isaiah, who preached publically for three years while barefoot and naked.
They would have had a huge problem with those old prophets, too. The religious establishment of the day was coming after them to try to stop them pretty much constantly.
Religion in the mold of Ezekiel and Isaiah I’m actually fine with, which probably puts me in the minority on Lemmy. But if you read the New Testament, a lot of it is Jesus and friends versus the preachers and religious people, because the two groups were more or less at war with each other.
They do. They need the cheap labour!
I will, but on/by your side. Snipsnip gang represent!
FYI they dont give a fuck about men contraception, its even a bonus for them that you removed yourself from the gene pool.
It is all about women and their control over their body. Stop making it looks like its not all about women, you are not helping them, you are making yourself look like a creep.
This woman had to undergo the surgery because she wouldnt be able to control her body through abortion otherwise, this is sad…
Stop making it looks like its not all about women, you are not helping them, you are making yourself look like a creep.
Not sure what you’re on about with that. My statement on its face is in solidarity with her. The subtext is that they don’t care about men’s contraceptive surgeries.
Telling people who support your causes that they’re not welcome to do so is counterproductive.
I honestly didn’t read that as an attack on you.
The comment literally said that Nougat looked like a creep. It was a direct attack on them.
Check again.
You’re right. I misread what they wrote.
My apologies.
No apology necessary, you gave me appropriate pause to reread and make sure I was clear on what was being said.
The thing is that your vasectomy has nothing to do with the cause. And this is counterproductive, if you want to show support, just say it, dont make it somthg about your vasectomy… Its creepy and cringy…
For example, its like some anorexic person from a first world country saying that he support the aid to children starving to death in a third world country because he shares their struggles… Its cringy as fuck. You are this kind of person…
Dude literally said “I’ve had a vasectomy. Come at me, fascists.”, basically a statement that nobody bats an eye about a man getting sterilized while that’s basically what the woman here had done, but instead people are attacking her for it.
At least that’s how it reads to me.
I’ve also had a vasectomy. I have had zero government officials question my decision. It’s fair to point that out in solidarity with women to highlight their struggles.
If you think talking about a medical procedure like a vasectomy is creepy or cringe, then you have some growing up to do.
Your anorexia example is also bad. It assumes that someone who’s anorexic is just doing it because when in reality it’s a mental disorder that someone is suffering through. Not that that’s the same as Gaza, but it’s definitely not the how you’re portraying it.
You clearly don’t know me.
I’m sure there’s some kind of culture difference going on here. You don’t appear to be a native English speaker (no shade, you speak at least one more language than I do). Since this whole thing right here is about a Michigan lawmaker’s statement, and how Americans are responding, you might not have the same kind of understanding of the situation as someone who is “in the shit,” so to speak.
Of course people who are capable of becoming pregnant have more at stake here than those who don’t. That’s so obvious I didn’t think it needed saying. She had a surgery to remove the fallopian tubes - the ones which carry the egg from the ovaries to the uterus. I had a surgery to remove the vas deferens - the tubes which carry sperm from the testicles. These surgeries do remarkably similar things: preventing the gonads from delivering the reproductive material to where it can be made into a zygote.
My intention was to point out that similarity, fully expecting that none of the fascists would have a problem with my surgery, even though it’s functionally similar to hers.
At no time did I ever suggest that my stake was the same as hers. Your analogy with eating disorders is off the mark.
Wait until they go after women who have medically necessary hysterectomies.
They already go after women, literally with legal persecution, for getting medically necessary abortions. Women dying for their control is absolutely acceptable in their eyes. I’m also convinced the reaction to this would be the same if her hysterectomy had been medically necessary.
Do you remember when trolls like this lurked in reddit DMs and on 4chan? You can outright openly say the most heinous things now and it has literally no consequences for you.
Medically necessary?
You mean those who we should just let die, lest they undergo something that would prevent them from becoming a baby machine? /s
These assholes have already made comments like a woman is defined as a person who can get pregnant. Which eliminates millions of cis women from the equation.
About 10% of women (or one in ten) experience a horrorshow called endometriosis that causes them non-stop abdominal pain.
Often the only way to really “solve” it is a hysterectomy.
They’re literally just going to abuse a large number of women for something they never asked for.
The cruelty is the point, as always.
Menopause is a liberal hoax by the Democrats.
/s
I’ve actually heard some transphobes say that hysterectomies should be banned because the uterus is a vital organ that women need to survive
Terrifying.
condemned by right-wing social media accounts
Ugh.
I wish a meteor would hit Twitter’s HQ and main data center, right now, and I don’t understand why people are so addicted to such a gruesome site.
I found it spammy and annoying enough to never post, years ago, even with some of my niche communities largely there.
Surely you’d also like the meteor to fragment and take out the white house and the shower of bastards inside it.
I think that was implied
It will never not be fucking hilarious to me that one of the most holier-than-thou textbook american white moderate liberal people I know works at xitter.
Pohutsky told large crowd gathered in Lansing at the state Capitol Wednesday that she chose last month to have a bilateral salpingectomy to remove her fallopian tubes. While abortion is constitutionally protected in Michigan and state lawmakers have bolstered contraceptive access, she said the decision was prompted by doubts that the Trump administration will not target access.
I do find this to be a little odd, kind of drastic. But, it’s her body. What people choose to do, under the guidance and care of an ethical, reputable medical professional, is their business. I certainly don’t understand getting so upset about it, especially not to the point where you would harass her for it. Even if you strongly disagree with her decision, just shake your head, shrug your shoulders and move on.
I do find this to be a little odd, kind of drastic.
I might do the same if i could be forced to carry a rapist’s baby, especially with contraceptives on the p2025 chopping block.
I think they meant removing the pieces rather than the much simpler and more common “tubes tied” procedure.
having read handmaid’s tale i think its the right thing to do, also cant get cancer or ectopic pregnancies if the tubes are just gone afaik
as a fellow human i encourage you to learn about the bodies of all of us
It’s not drastic! Look outside. Having kids in this world is outright cruel. Even within the wealthiest countries on earth, only a small sub section of the population can actually have children without bringing them into pure hell. Im an educator working in a poor to “middle class” area and even the more well off families are skipping meals, choosing to stop having children, choosing to forgo medical care, and making decisions that only you hear citizens in 3rd world countries make. If you have a kid today it’s fucked.
People should be allowed to have diverse beliefs, and should be allowed to act on them … as long as it does NOT adversely affect another person’s life or safety.
Right-wing fucknuts forget that last part.
“Your body, my choice” is attempted murder and should be treated as such.
Are you a woman?
