Yeah I was equally shocked by the revelation. Wait, didn’t they start the whole Mccarthism thing? But all the good ol boys out there think strongman putin is neat and based for bashing the gays or something. Every talking head on the right has repeated this for years. ‘We should try to be like putin.’ Tucker Carlson even went and interviewed him. Did you watch the part of that special where tucker goes to a Russian grocery and gawks at Aldi style shopping carts with the quarter locks? Tried to make them out to be the pinnacle of human invention. With the wrinkled brow, he was confounded that russia could possibly be this perfect. Dumbass has never been to an Aldi.
Tucker went over there because it wasn’t like putin was going to come over here right? Right? Oh wait, republican president, putin is in the US. He’d get arrested if he went to literally half of the world, but ya this normal.
What do you think MTG meant when she said “No funding shall be made available to Ukraine unless restrictions on ethnic minorities, including Hungarians in Transcarpathia, right to use their native languages in schools are lifted”?
Not a rhetorical question. Please decipher and understand each word in that statement. I guarantee she doesn’t. But you should try to understand the statement. That’s not something an American would even begin to have an opinion on, let alone leverage it against ukranian aide? Let alone from MTGs mouth? I mean come on who told her to say that be real with yourself right now lmao.
Then of course there’s the low level grifters like Tim pool and Laura loomer getting caught taking money for spewing russian talking points. Was kirk caught up in that? Maybe not, it just feels right.
There’s been a lot of Americans that defect to Russia. They’re all from the right. Either LARPers sent to the meat grinder or weirdos chasing the trad life just to be sorely disappointed. Anyone heard from Derek Huffman yet? He’ll probably end up like Russell Bentley
The targeted propaganda and disinformation has been massive and they’re out in the open about it. Republicans regularly share RT clones even though their main site got nuked. Margarita Simonyan will get on russian TV and straight up brag that they’re spinning up thousands of fake accounts to target Republicans and any republican I meet still scoffs at the very idea like it doesn’t happen.
If you’ve never experienced it, I dare you to install telegram and join some conservative channels on there. You think that’s not a pipeline? Don’t go no true scots-ing Republicans now, they’re all over that shithole. It’s freedom, baby.
Most certainly a giant heap of it across the board has also been some weird ass behavior of supporting russia to own the libs. Support for Ukraine had to become a partisan issue for them, because everything the left does is wrong. They’ve been buttered up by russian propaganda for years so saying russia good just felt right I guess.
Equally as shocking as ALL of this combined was the fact that the one republican that blew past it all and consistently wished nuclear rain against russia from the very start was Lindsey fucking Graham. What
First of all, you have no clue what you’re talking about if you think the “left” supports Ukraine. Bureaucratic neoliberal technocrats in the Democratic Party turning on the money printer for Zelensky are not the left. The left doesn’t exist in the US, at least not in a way that gives it agency about what foreign countries receive funding to do the US’ bidding. And if the PSL got in power just to give Nazis in Ukraines guns for them to do terrorism with for 20 years after this war ends and they think Europe betrayed them, the PSL would be doing a very silly thing (but it is in character for the Dems or Republicans to pursue this strategy, it’s just a repeat of operation Bloodstone, except this time they’re supporting the Nazis from day 1 instead of only after the war)
Secondly, you’re looking at statements by pundits and influencers to figure out what the strategy of your enemies is. That’s really not very smart. If you were analyzing the collapse of the American Empire 100 years from now looking back, would you look at what Tucker Carlson was saying about Putin to discern what the state was trying to accomplish with its foreign policy? No, that’s silly. You would look at what foreign policy papers from the Heritage Foundation, the Brookings Institute, the Strategic Studies Institute, and whatever other think tanks were putting out. You’d look at hearings with strategists from those think tanks, military command, and economists. And what they have to say right now is pretty clear: they want to squeeze Ukraine for all it’s worth against Russia. They have no love for Russia.
The posturing from right wing influencers that you’re talking about is essentially just culture war nonsense. They call the war in Ukraine a Democrat war as a culture war tactic, but that doesn’t actually reflect reality. I mean, FFS, John McCain was at Kyiv during Euromaidan shaking the hands of the nazi leader of the coup! To confuse the rhetoric of false promises to their base that they would stop funding Ukraine to put America first for anything other than a boldfaced lie, just like their lies about locking up Hillary or going after big tech, is a mistake that you make for thinking the spectacle is real.
Finally, that’s a funny MTG quote, it is pretty clearly something someone fed her and I agree that I don’t think she could keep the names of Hungary and Transcarparthia in her head for more than 15 minutes. Which actually makes it pretty easy to answer why she would say it: one of her nazi staffers was telling her to implement one of the line items from some report from the Heritage Foundation/some other RW think tank outlining concessions to extract from Ukraine in pursuit of a nebulous goal? I honestly don’t get what Russia would get out of it if Ukraine ethnically cleansed Hungarians and Transcarparthians, so I don’t know if you actually meant that Russia was getting her to say that.
Yeah I was equally shocked by the revelation. Wait, didn’t they start the whole Mccarthism thing? But all the good ol boys out there think strongman putin is neat and based for bashing the gays or something. Every talking head on the right has repeated this for years. ‘We should try to be like putin.’ Tucker Carlson even went and interviewed him. Did you watch the part of that special where tucker goes to a Russian grocery and gawks at Aldi style shopping carts with the quarter locks? Tried to make them out to be the pinnacle of human invention. With the wrinkled brow, he was confounded that russia could possibly be this perfect. Dumbass has never been to an Aldi.
Tucker went over there because it wasn’t like putin was going to come over here right? Right? Oh wait, republican president, putin is in the US. He’d get arrested if he went to literally half of the world, but ya this normal.
What do you think MTG meant when she said “No funding shall be made available to Ukraine unless restrictions on ethnic minorities, including Hungarians in Transcarpathia, right to use their native languages in schools are lifted”?
Not a rhetorical question. Please decipher and understand each word in that statement. I guarantee she doesn’t. But you should try to understand the statement. That’s not something an American would even begin to have an opinion on, let alone leverage it against ukranian aide? Let alone from MTGs mouth? I mean come on who told her to say that be real with yourself right now lmao.
Then of course there’s the low level grifters like Tim pool and Laura loomer getting caught taking money for spewing russian talking points. Was kirk caught up in that? Maybe not, it just feels right.
There’s been a lot of Americans that defect to Russia. They’re all from the right. Either LARPers sent to the meat grinder or weirdos chasing the trad life just to be sorely disappointed. Anyone heard from Derek Huffman yet? He’ll probably end up like Russell Bentley
The targeted propaganda and disinformation has been massive and they’re out in the open about it. Republicans regularly share RT clones even though their main site got nuked. Margarita Simonyan will get on russian TV and straight up brag that they’re spinning up thousands of fake accounts to target Republicans and any republican I meet still scoffs at the very idea like it doesn’t happen.
If you’ve never experienced it, I dare you to install telegram and join some conservative channels on there. You think that’s not a pipeline? Don’t go no true scots-ing Republicans now, they’re all over that shithole. It’s freedom, baby.
Most certainly a giant heap of it across the board has also been some weird ass behavior of supporting russia to own the libs. Support for Ukraine had to become a partisan issue for them, because everything the left does is wrong. They’ve been buttered up by russian propaganda for years so saying russia good just felt right I guess.
Equally as shocking as ALL of this combined was the fact that the one republican that blew past it all and consistently wished nuclear rain against russia from the very start was Lindsey fucking Graham. What
First of all, you have no clue what you’re talking about if you think the “left” supports Ukraine. Bureaucratic neoliberal technocrats in the Democratic Party turning on the money printer for Zelensky are not the left. The left doesn’t exist in the US, at least not in a way that gives it agency about what foreign countries receive funding to do the US’ bidding. And if the PSL got in power just to give Nazis in Ukraines guns for them to do terrorism with for 20 years after this war ends and they think Europe betrayed them, the PSL would be doing a very silly thing (but it is in character for the Dems or Republicans to pursue this strategy, it’s just a repeat of operation Bloodstone, except this time they’re supporting the Nazis from day 1 instead of only after the war)
Secondly, you’re looking at statements by pundits and influencers to figure out what the strategy of your enemies is. That’s really not very smart. If you were analyzing the collapse of the American Empire 100 years from now looking back, would you look at what Tucker Carlson was saying about Putin to discern what the state was trying to accomplish with its foreign policy? No, that’s silly. You would look at what foreign policy papers from the Heritage Foundation, the Brookings Institute, the Strategic Studies Institute, and whatever other think tanks were putting out. You’d look at hearings with strategists from those think tanks, military command, and economists. And what they have to say right now is pretty clear: they want to squeeze Ukraine for all it’s worth against Russia. They have no love for Russia.
The posturing from right wing influencers that you’re talking about is essentially just culture war nonsense. They call the war in Ukraine a Democrat war as a culture war tactic, but that doesn’t actually reflect reality. I mean, FFS, John McCain was at Kyiv during Euromaidan shaking the hands of the nazi leader of the coup! To confuse the rhetoric of false promises to their base that they would stop funding Ukraine to put America first for anything other than a boldfaced lie, just like their lies about locking up Hillary or going after big tech, is a mistake that you make for thinking the spectacle is real.
Finally, that’s a funny MTG quote, it is pretty clearly something someone fed her and I agree that I don’t think she could keep the names of Hungary and Transcarparthia in her head for more than 15 minutes. Which actually makes it pretty easy to answer why she would say it: one of her nazi staffers was telling her to implement one of the line items from some report from the Heritage Foundation/some other RW think tank outlining concessions to extract from Ukraine in pursuit of a nebulous goal? I honestly don’t get what Russia would get out of it if Ukraine ethnically cleansed Hungarians and Transcarparthians, so I don’t know if you actually meant that Russia was getting her to say that.