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fort_burp@feddit.nl to Memes@lemmy.ml · 2 days ago

Is it really so simple?

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Is it really so simple?

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fort_burp@feddit.nl to Memes@lemmy.ml · 2 days ago
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  • TheLeadenSea@sh.itjust.works
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    2 days ago

    What do you even mean? Good and evil are moral terms, and the world doesn’t even have objective morality, let alone ‘is’ it. Making a meme where your position is in the ‘right’, doesn’t make it true or even sensical.

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      9 hours ago

      Hmm, that’s a weird opinion. What are you assuming “my position” is?

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        7 hours ago

        What do you even mean

        As per my original comment, I have no idea what your position is. Care to enlighten me?

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          6 hours ago

          Making a meme where your position is in the ‘right’, doesn’t make it true or even sensical.

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            5 hours ago

            What is your position?

    • TʜᴇʀᴀᴘʏGⒶʀʏ⁽ᵗʰᵉʸ‘ᵗʰᵉᵐ⁾@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      Your comment does the same thing you’re critiquing OOP for doing. What gives you the authority to claim as fact that there exists no objective morality?

      Edit: tbc, I also don’t believe in object morality, but what I have issue with is the apparent contradiction you’ve made

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        5 hours ago

        In the same way as free will, both that and subjective morality are things I have never been able to see any good definition of. And something that isn’t well defined can’t exist.

        • TʜᴇʀᴀᴘʏGⒶʀʏ⁽ᵗʰᵉʸ‘ᵗʰᵉᵐ⁾@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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          something that isn’t well defined can’t exist.

          People before gravity was well defined:
          1000011895

          I’m an amoralist and a determinist; I only disagree with you on the basis of claiming these things as fact

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            2 hours ago

            It’s more like, “people before smorklank was well defined”

            “Well, but smorklank exists, or it doesn’t, what do you think?”

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        The fact that I can observe people have different moralities.

        • TʜᴇʀᴀᴘʏGⒶʀʏ⁽ᵗʰᵉʸ‘ᵗʰᵉᵐ⁾@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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          Lots of hella smart people have made this topic their entire life for literally thousands of years, and the debates are still ongoing. An individual’s observations mean little

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            An appeal to majority, authority, or tradition (your comment might be all 3) does not supersede my own reason and experience.

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              9 hours ago

              You mean your subjective experience?

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                7 hours ago

                Exactly. All experience is subjective, and so is morality.

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                  the world doesn’t even have objective morality

                  Deductions based on subjective information got you here. Or did you objectively observe (through, for example, objective experimentation) that there is no objective morality?

                  That’s what therapygary was trying to tell you, but not sure why they expected your subjective experience to realize the contradiction it itself is based on, lol.

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                    Can you define objective morality for me please? What exactly would the world look like if there was objective morality?

            • TʜᴇʀᴀᴘʏGⒶʀʏ⁽ᵗʰᵉʸ‘ᵗʰᵉᵐ⁾@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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              Your reasoning is bad- I was just trying to point it out gently without being too explicit about calling you out for the arrogant moron you are.

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                I’m happy for you to point out the flaw in my reasoning, so far all you’ve done is criticise me.

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