• Sunflier@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    If someone entered the sanctity of my home without first presenting an Article III warrant, they’d get a bullet in their skull

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      16 hours ago

      Ice also has guns and they don’t roll in by themselves. They roll four or more deep most of the time on home raids. Even people with guns don’t want to get shot themselves. The way ICE rolls in without warning, most people aren’t locked and loaded in mass sitting in their homes. I’m sure the people there weren’t expecting that excessive action. Most Americans don’t wanna die in a government fire fight if they can help it. You have to be alive to claim self defense, and our government’s so corrupt it’s not a guarantee you’ll win. As deep as ice rolls into these type of situations, it’s not like they won’t have back up to take you out if you do happen to take a couple of them out. Trump will back ICE if they use any excessive force.

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      21 hours ago

      A lot of people like to puff out their chest and say that. I still haven’t seen something like that happen in the news for all the times ICE has raided people’s homes throughout the country. It could be a matter of time but it’ll be exceedingly rare.

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        The news like’s to pretend that stuff doesn’t happen but it does. I remember cops getting super pissed off because the court ruled that a guy who shot some cops was legally in the clear in that particular situation.

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        21 hours ago

        It is a situation where after the pin drops, everything explodes. Exceedingly rare will become common, simply because law and norms no longer has enough belief to sustain the status quo.

        The America we knew is running on inertia alone. That ride is coming to an end.

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        20 hours ago

        It does happen, although I haven’t heard of it happening recently with ICE per se, but I do recall Breonna Taylor’s boyfriend firing at police for entering the home unannounced and hitting a cop.

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            its already being portrayed by media in a sanitized manner, not neccesarily with mental illness. they report, and then they stop tlaking about it, it helps normalize it.

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      18 hours ago

      I agree with you, but…while you say that, when there’s 10 brown shirts outside, ready to return fire, I don’t know how practical that ends up being…

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      The 2nd Amendment exists for when all the other Amendments fail.

      If you don’t respect the 4th Amendment, maybe you’ll respect the 2nd Amendment.

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        16 hours ago

        Anyone. Entering. My. Home. Univited. Without. A. Warrant. Will. Die.

        Maybe its ICE. Maybe it’s a criminal. How am I supposed to know?

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          I feel you and I’m not mad at that - just saying chances are you can’t shoot all the guys in ICE before they shoot you. Most people don’t want to die. Resisting a force as large and organized as the government takes guerrilla tactics.