Sure you have, it was called Trump’s first term.

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    theres this farmer youtuber who was talking about this. She is like everyones like we never thought he would do this and she is like. You 100% knew he would do this from both his first term and everything he said before winning election.

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      Tbf, no, everyone criticized the “adults in the room” the first time around, myself included, for not doing anything constructive. We were wrong.

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        It’s not wrong to demand accountability and action from leaders. Part of America’s problem is that we don’t do that enough.it’s been since Obama’s first election in 08 since the Democrats have had an open, untainted primary and we’ve still seen no major shakeups or changes to the leadership, just business as usual. The problem is that we’re stuck in a system with only two real choices and there’s no real solid way for the average voter to hold the leadership accountable. It’s vote for our guy or the guy who’s followers are throwing Nazi salutes wins.

        We need to focus less on the presidential election and senators. We need to actually have some way of affecting government outside of election years. To my mind the first steps are state level elections and the house. We need to support third party candidates at the local and state level and we need to support things like the interstate compact that would have states cast their electorial votes for whoever wins the national popular vote. We need to focus on changing the electorial system so that proportional representation is used in the house and at the state level and make gerrymandering much more difficult. We need to change to a voting system like STAR which makes the election result better reflect the true will of the voters.

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          I fully agree! I just meant we were wrong about them not doing anything to check his worst impulses, but I was about as clear as mud in my conveyance.

          Additionally, we have to factor in the sleeper agents, intended and not, bribes, threats, and other sorts of coercion. At the end of the day, everything is a huge risk and calculated gamble, but risks can be mitigated and gambles calculated, but we need to take our time and plan well, lest the losses be greater. In retrospect, that the US colonies of England won their revolution was a freaking miracle, paid for with a lot of personal and collective sacrifice. And heart. And that’s the way it’s always going to be, if any people collectively or indivually, is ever going to throw off the yoke of their oppressors.