• lennybird@lemmy.world
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    12 hours ago

    My initial impression of his writings hit me as either Groyper posing as a leftist, or just an accelerationist psychopath.

    Either way, it doesn’t change the fact that right-wing extremism makes up the majority of violence.

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      3 hours ago

      Either way, it doesn’t change the fact that right-wing extremism makes up the majority of violence.

      Even if it can be concluded that he acted out of left-wing motivations, his Conservative upbringing led him to react with a right-wing solution.

      Had he been raised a Lefty, he would have been protesting, making phone calls, writing emails, and voting, not shooting.

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      7 hours ago

      What exactly makes you say things like that? I’m genuinely curious what part of the discord conversations make people draw these conclusions.

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        2 hours ago

        I’m referring more to the immediate aftermath of the event. I wasn’t very clear when I said writings but rather writings on the casings and the immediate reaction of Fuentes.

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        9 hours ago

        There are VERY few situations where committing premeditated murder would be considered clinically neurotypical. The term psychopath is used so loosely, but would fall under antisocial personality disorder, which he very well could be diagnosed as.

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        11 hours ago

        If that was his thinking, then he’s terrible at foreseeing the coming chess moves from the other side.

        It was quite obvious the Trump administration was doing everything in their power to provoke something like this so they could then utilize it as their Reichstag Fire / October 7th incident to further strip civil liberties and consolidate power.

        Best thing he could’ve done was just do a public protest about Epstein and rally people to vote for midterms. I fail to see how this made vulnerable group safer in any way in all reality.

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            13 hours ago

            That’s the sad part, it already isn’t. Many assholes on the right truly think they’re fighting a righteous war. Nay, a biblical crusade against evil. And they’re harming far more good people, both directly and indirectly.

            All guardrails and checks & balances have since been broken to prevent this very thing from playing out but now it all just boils down to who can push a louder message to the masses and distort their perception of reality.

            I’m pretty lost for answers on how to crawl our way out of this. My only hope is the economy tanks so hard that it hits the working class in their wallets. That’s pretty much the only thing they care about.

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      14 hours ago

      If the Discord is real, he seemed like a pretty normal guy. Apparently he was bisexual, and his girfriend might’ve been trans. According to the source at least. I don’t know any groypers, so I don’t know how they act, but I don’t think that they’re normally fine with that sort of thing. Somewhere else said that he claimes to have done it to silence the hate that Kirk spewed, which is a fair enough reason I guess. Lots of contradictory info. Maybe he was a groyper that woke up after meeting his girlfriend. Maybe he just did it for attention. Maybe he just snapped. I’m just hoping for the best, that he did it for a decent enough reason, not to start a race war. We might even find out, if he isn’t Epsteined.

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        11 hours ago

        I saw some of the Discord on Ken Klippensteins website. Are there other links to it that show more conversation?

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          No, this is just from what he wrote. Apparently he got a publicly unavailable picture of the two of them as evidence, so it’s not impossible that it’s real. I think that too many of us might’ve been a bit too quick to hop on the groyper thing, just because he was online a ton. And someone named Tyler Robinson in the St. George area donated to Trump 5 years ago, when Robinson was 17.