Fair enough. I didn’t misunderstand anything, I just wasn’t real overt about responding to it directly I guess.
As I see it, there are two possibilities:
They give the body back to the family and the legs are fine
They give it but the legs are broken, or they cremate it first, or they refuse to give it back, or basically anything other than that first thing
In the second case, there’s fuckery by the coroner. In the first case, there’s not (which of course doesn’t mean he wasn’t lynched of course). I just don’t get how trust for the coroner or police needs to enter into that equation in any capacity. Sure, if they fuck with the body or have some ridiculous excuse for why the legs were broken, then it also means that the coroner is dirty and trying a coverup for some horrendous reason. But it’s not like the original question is going to stay as an unknowable thing.
People have this kind of knee-jerk “the system is going to lie about everything” reaction which sometimes makes them kind of throw up their hands on the concept of every getting to the bottom of anything, and I think that’s insidious, especially when they start inserting all kinds of speculation and saying it’s a possibility so who knows. We’re going to be able to tell if his legs were broken or not with a pretty high degree of certainty at some point in the pretty near future. I feel like it’s good to hold onto that ability to make sense of the world instead of retreating into nihilism and just assuming everyone’s probably lying and giving up. Doesn’t that make some sense?
In the second case, there’s fuckery by the coroner.
I don’t think gross incompetence would be entirely unexpected! But it would put really heavy lean into the ‘fuckery’ bucket, definitely.
People have this kind of knee-jerk “the system is going to lie about everything” reaction which sometimes makes them kind of throw up their hands on the concept of every getting to the bottom of anything
I understand, and I wasn’t saying that so much as “Ugh, I really hope this doesn’t get handled poorly”. What I was saying - for clarity - is there is a long history of racism there and enough is off about this to make me put on my “worried” hat. That I would feel more assured about how this would be handled if there were more trustworthy folks involved, but thats unfortunately not an option given the current administration, instead needing to wait not just for the coroner to finish, but for the family to receive his body and have the unpleasant experience of potentially needing to get their own specialist to take a look.
Even just the prospect of a family needing to verify the report is an upsetting reality.
Fair enough. I didn’t misunderstand anything, I just wasn’t real overt about responding to it directly I guess.
As I see it, there are two possibilities:
In the second case, there’s fuckery by the coroner. In the first case, there’s not (which of course doesn’t mean he wasn’t lynched of course). I just don’t get how trust for the coroner or police needs to enter into that equation in any capacity. Sure, if they fuck with the body or have some ridiculous excuse for why the legs were broken, then it also means that the coroner is dirty and trying a coverup for some horrendous reason. But it’s not like the original question is going to stay as an unknowable thing.
People have this kind of knee-jerk “the system is going to lie about everything” reaction which sometimes makes them kind of throw up their hands on the concept of every getting to the bottom of anything, and I think that’s insidious, especially when they start inserting all kinds of speculation and saying it’s a possibility so who knows. We’re going to be able to tell if his legs were broken or not with a pretty high degree of certainty at some point in the pretty near future. I feel like it’s good to hold onto that ability to make sense of the world instead of retreating into nihilism and just assuming everyone’s probably lying and giving up. Doesn’t that make some sense?
I don’t think gross incompetence would be entirely unexpected! But it would put really heavy lean into the ‘fuckery’ bucket, definitely.
I understand, and I wasn’t saying that so much as “Ugh, I really hope this doesn’t get handled poorly”. What I was saying - for clarity - is there is a long history of racism there and enough is off about this to make me put on my “worried” hat. That I would feel more assured about how this would be handled if there were more trustworthy folks involved, but thats unfortunately not an option given the current administration, instead needing to wait not just for the coroner to finish, but for the family to receive his body and have the unpleasant experience of potentially needing to get their own specialist to take a look.
Even just the prospect of a family needing to verify the report is an upsetting reality.