The original Utopia of More is a dystopia in today’s standards.
Utopia maybe impossible, but improvement is always better.
Also, almost? Right now I’m accessing this through a VPN because my government has mandated that every single social media website or website with a search feature put up an age gate for anything pornographic or has “sensitve content” for the “protection of children”, meaning to operate in the UK, every social media company has to higher a third party to scan a picture of your face or your passport or ID.
Also, This same government actively wants to strip away basic rights like access to public toilets, hospital treatment, support services, and even things like sports, and believe I and others like me are such a threat they’re gonna bring back Section 28.
So yeah, Dystopia is here.
You wait, soon they will cause an artificial crisis and ban cash, replacing it with CBDC. And then it will be China 2.0.
You think we’re gonna end up like China? The place with transit infrastructure? And a competent government? You fucking wish
Well then you will see it with your own eyes gradually.
Lol I’m not that lucky, you don’t have a clue what you’re talking about
I hope so, I’d love to live in a socialist country with avtual infrastructure and a long term mindset.
Oh boy do I have news about how actual cash currencies work in reality!
Goddamn it. My eyes set upon Crowder’s horrible visage. Bleh.
Utopianism is a failure, but a better world is possible. Taking a scientific approach to socialism works.
Only the movement must be smart, otherwise you know, soon they will introduce this fucking social rating and ban cash, then it will be shitty. And believe me, nothing will stop these fascists until they destroy our civilization playing gods, they need power for the sake of power itself, there is nothing higher.
I’m not sure what you’re getting at.
I’m talking about the coming digital concentration camp with AI. If you have low loyalty to the government, you can’t even buy bread in the store. And the government, or rather these fascists, will know everything about you and everything you said on the Internet will be used against you.
In truth, we were slowly being herded into a pen like sheep and when AGI appears, that’s when we will all end up as slaves. And no peaceful protests will help anymore.
I think this is more fantasy than reality.
And this will happen after an artificially induced crisis, and then it will no longer be a voluntary, but a forced process. And then it will not be a fantasy, but a reality.
I think you might benefit from reading theory, this is all more fantasy. The huge issues we have today aren’t like that, they are usually accidental and economically compelled by capitalism. There’s no “dystopia” button or “utopia” button.
Ok, so far everything is still normal, but in 2026 or 2027 everything can suddenly change, be prepared for this.
AGI isn’t real and AI is a money pit of garbage.
Unfortunately, the world is ruled by villains, and nothing will stop them. They don’t care if the AI rises, they want power over the whole world and man at any cost.
This is idealism. It’s fantasy. Nobody is trying to pursue endless power like a marvel villian, there’s an immense pursuit of profit. The crimes of the wealthiest capitalists are in pursuit of that end, if you mistake the reasons you’ll end up blundering your predictions.
Crowder shouldn’t be given a meme format.
Both are possible
Dystopia is just more likely because it can be achieved through inaction
Well, to be honest, we have very little time, a year or several at most, depending on the country.
I also think true dystopia is impossible. Eventually, people reach their breaking point and everything collapses to the ground.
I mean, there’s even a Seuss story about it, “Yertle the Turtle”.
We can tolerate a lot of bad things because we have so much hope that things will get better, and when that hope breaks, all hell breaks loose along with it.
What a pointless argument. At what point of societal ill do you go from “normal” or whatever to “dystopia”? You don’t. Dystopia is a relative term; in a sense everything is dystopian so long as you can imagine a better world; it’s the negation of utopia. Arguing “how close we are to dystopia” is missing the point; we should be arguing about what makes our society better versus worse, not getting hung up on classification labels.
Dystopia most can agree of if it gets low enough. Utopia is subjective
I disagree; I don’t think there’s any clear cut line at which you go from “normal” to “dystopia”; societies are dystopian by the extent to which they fail to be utopian. Fictional larger than life examples of “dystopia” grab our attention by presenting decades or centuries of changes in the blink of an eye. Often such societies aren’t even more repressive than our current ones; they just are more striking in presentation. And when they ARE more repressive it’s not because someone pushed the dystopia button; it’s from very long recurring events that push the slider to worse and worse positions.
Well, if this becomes a reality and we live almost like in 1984, I will be interested in your reaction.
