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    Illustrating to his base that he’s not only a liar, but will go out of his way to throw any of them under the bus to corrupt our country is the goal.

    Trump is well established to be a liar long ago, and he has been voted yet again and still has a substantial support base.

    It’s working. Massively.

    Is it? The only reason Trump is getting more push back now is because his economic agenda pissed everyone off. Ultimately, what people care first and foremost is economic security. If the stock market hadn’t been shook and Medicare is not cut, people would not really bat an eye on what he does next.

    Even what Democrats are doing is wanting to release the Epstein list and accuse the Republicans of being pedofiles, they still have not laid out their broader plan to address growing inequality and inflation. As we speak, even if Trump and Republicans are on negative approval rating, the Dems approval rating is not on the positive either albeit slightly higher.

    If the focus is on throwing gossips and scandals are what Dems are going to do while the rich and powerful rob people while distracted by it, then maybe go back to high school. You don’t quite understand both the MAGA cult mindset who are beyond convincing, and what the salt of the earth everyday folks really need.

    Even if Trump is disgraced beyond redemption, how is this going to put the genie back into the bottle that is fascism? Will the Dems address what made fascism take root in the US?

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      Will the Dems address what made fascism take root in the US?

      I don’t know. But do you know what won’t do that? Not voting or voting 3rd party.

      Need proof?

      Everything since election day 2024 when we learned what happens when you don’t vote or vote 3rd party while an openly fascist party is circling the wagons.

      So please, keep on bitching about Democrats while we’re knee deep in the consequences of not voting for them. You are being helpful…

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      You realize your diatribe is all about your anecdotal thoughts and opinions? How many of his die hard asshats you see out on YouTube yelling about this particular issue? Turning them against him is working. You’re wrong.

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        I don’t know, I don’t keep up with his die hard asshats on YouTube, you tell us.

        When Trump said explicitly that he doesn’t want supporters that are obsessed with the Epstein stuff, that was a classic cult purge. He’s very much okay with losing people over the doodle, because the remaining die hard cultists will defend him to the grave, literally.

        It isn’t “massively working”, he’s using it to consolidate power. Now before you downvote and run away, can you answer this comment:

        Do Republicans have the numbers when they filibuster every popular proposals and bills? Dems should do the same if they are serious and whether they are in opposition or not.

        All they do is performative bullshit, because like the oligarchs who bent the knee, they’re all on the same side. The genocide supporting Democrats are not holding back on using every available tool because they still believe in civility, they don’t try hard because people like you are happy to give them every excuse for their minimal effort performative bullshit. The levers are known, Republicans use them all the time, there is no excuse.

        Polite Nazis are still Nazis. Demand better from your government.

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        Even if Trump is disgraced beyond redemption, how is this going to put the genie back into the bottle that is fascism? Will the Dems address what made fascism take root in the US?

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          Are you familiar with the general concept of “order of operations”?

          You have to get rid of the fascist first, THEN you deal with the rest. You can’t do the latter first.

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              Yup.

              If you had a normal number of brain cells going into the 2024 election you knew that Harris winning meant actual consequences for Trump and Harris losing meant zero consequences for Trump.

              I don’t think I’ve ever witnessed an event that so massively changed the outcome of the future, and I was in high school when 9/11 happened. I 100% believe the repercussions of this election are more severe and far reaching than 9/11.

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            You have to get rid of the fascist first, THEN you deal with the rest. You can’t do the latter first.

            Will it? Dems didn’t even do anything in the past four years to prevent Trump taking power for the second time after his coup. Dems under Schumer have also allowed the big beautiful bill without significant push back. They are not acting like an actual opposition as they ought to be.

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              Dems didn’t even do anything in the past four years to prevent Trump taking power for the second time after his coup.

              They had a massive televised investigation that presented a shit ton of footage and witness testimony of the insurrection to make it clear to the American people what happened and the American people chose to believe it wasn’t a big deal and stripped Democrats of their power and handed it to the leader of the insurrection and his treasonous party.

              Wanna play the blame game? Blame your fellow dumbass Americans.