I’m going to reiterate my original claim because much of your comment misses the point. In the comment above I argued that quantum theory has interesting philosophical implications. It opens the door for us to consider an anti-materialist metaphysics based on scientific evidence. Your response has been to explain away the bizarre observations concerning the features of subatomic particles as compatible with materialism. And perhaps materalism does a better job at capturing certain aspects of reality. Perhaps the anti-materialist do a better job of accounting for epistemological uncertainty and probabilistic features. But my sense from your attempt to show that the evidence is compatible with materialism is that you don’t take the philosophical debate seriously.
It is always possible for two different groups of people, given the same predictive body of mathematics, to draw different metaphysical conclusions…This is blatantly obviously his personal metaphysical interpretation …
So when you assert materialism this is intellectual honesty, but when someone argues for an anti-materalist stance, based on observable evidence as strange as quantum entanglement (which you are quick to explain away) this is just personal metaphysics? How could you possibly evaluate the salience of his position without reading his arguments?? Occam’s razor doesn’t allow us to flippantly dismiss positions we deem unintuitive. Again, you’re familiar with the physics side but are incapable of considering alternate philosophical points of view.
I’m going to reiterate my original claim because much of your comment misses the point. In the comment above I argued that quantum theory has interesting philosophical implications.
You didn’t read my original comment, then, since the whole point in my reply was to demonstrate that QM does not change the situation at all when it comes to the metaphysics, i.e. it does not have philosophical implications which classical mechanics did not have.
So when you assert materialism this is intellectual honesty, but when someone argues for an anti-materalist stance, based on observable evidence as strange as quantum entanglement (which you are quick to explain away) this is just personal metaphysics?
I don’t know if your reading comprehension really is that poor or you are just intentionally misinterpreting what I stated.
No, I did not claim that materialism is being “intellectually honest” here, I claimed that the ones being intellectually honest are the ones who do not pretend like quantum mechanics supports their metaphysics, which includes materialists, at least not any more than classical physics did.
Occam’s razor doesn’t allow us to flippantly dismiss positions we deem unintuitive.
Sure, but Sagan’s razor does, if you present your mystical claims without a shred of evidence.
Again, you’re familiar with the physics side but are incapable of considering alternate philosophical points of view.
You are incapable of being intellectually honest and want to desperately pretend that quantum physics proves idealism. I at least have the intellectual honesty to not pretend quantum mechanics is relevant to such questions of metaphysics.
I’m going to reiterate my original claim because much of your comment misses the point. In the comment above I argued that quantum theory has interesting philosophical implications. It opens the door for us to consider an anti-materialist metaphysics based on scientific evidence. Your response has been to explain away the bizarre observations concerning the features of subatomic particles as compatible with materialism. And perhaps materalism does a better job at capturing certain aspects of reality. Perhaps the anti-materialist do a better job of accounting for epistemological uncertainty and probabilistic features. But my sense from your attempt to show that the evidence is compatible with materialism is that you don’t take the philosophical debate seriously.
So when you assert materialism this is intellectual honesty, but when someone argues for an anti-materalist stance, based on observable evidence as strange as quantum entanglement (which you are quick to explain away) this is just personal metaphysics? How could you possibly evaluate the salience of his position without reading his arguments?? Occam’s razor doesn’t allow us to flippantly dismiss positions we deem unintuitive. Again, you’re familiar with the physics side but are incapable of considering alternate philosophical points of view.
You didn’t read my original comment, then, since the whole point in my reply was to demonstrate that QM does not change the situation at all when it comes to the metaphysics, i.e. it does not have philosophical implications which classical mechanics did not have.
I don’t know if your reading comprehension really is that poor or you are just intentionally misinterpreting what I stated.
No, I did not claim that materialism is being “intellectually honest” here, I claimed that the ones being intellectually honest are the ones who do not pretend like quantum mechanics supports their metaphysics, which includes materialists, at least not any more than classical physics did.
Sure, but Sagan’s razor does, if you present your mystical claims without a shred of evidence.
You are incapable of being intellectually honest and want to desperately pretend that quantum physics proves idealism. I at least have the intellectual honesty to not pretend quantum mechanics is relevant to such questions of metaphysics.