• azertyfun@sh.itjust.works
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      2 days ago

      In this context? Someone who is currently on the good side of the current apartheid system in Israel/Palestine.

      Don’t play dumb with me, you know full well what I meant. If you have a point, make it.

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        those folk are Palestinian. that’s my entire point.

        yes apartheid exists. shooting for a two state solution codifies this apartheid. that is wrong.

        it needs to be completely reverted and the folks physically doing the genocide given the proper sentences.

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          If you’ve got a plan to achieve that and doesn’t involve genociding israel, shoot for it. But I don’t think “unrecognizing” Israel is a particularly productive step towards that.

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            it’s simple:

            the criminals doing a genocide go to prison.

            the nation state gets dissolved.

            one state is left, palestine.

            stop being so thick about this. the nation of israel should not exist. that does not mean the people who follow israel. you know the difference.

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              And I want a unicorn for Christmas.

              Look, right now I don’t even have a good reason to hope that Israel will be stopped before they finish their genocide. But step 1 is to get a permanent ceasefire in place. Whatever fantasies we might have beyond that is a moot point. But recognizing both parties as sovereign would go some way towards facilitating the terms and enforcement of that ceasefire.

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                yeah. it might. but it’s never ever worked out in the history of man when one party is doing a genocide. it took a few million russians to stop a famous genocidal ass in the 20th century.

                the key here is that we cannot enable this behavior by acknowledging it as any kind of “ok.”