Eh. I get what you’re saying, but so much of the disillusionment from the potential dem base is coming from their constant promises and constantly arriving at the obvious conclusion decades late and then acting like they’re the most progressive politician in human history. While in reality it’s a half step toward the policies we should’ve enacted forty years ago.
It’s not that people are like “so what.” It’s the deep seeded knowledge in all of us that the party will try to throw us crumbs and claim like they’ve always been on our side and are the most righteous policy makers that are saving us, when in reality they’re walking hand in hand with people that are pushing us to absolute limit of barely acceptable and then dangling what they’ve known they should’ve done forever ago in front of us when we’re finally at our breaking point.
They don’t care about us. They’re not beholden to us, and it shows. They’re beholden to money and are performatively throwing us scraps when they have an opponent so far right that it’s literally the threat of fascism. And they are very much responsible for the continued rightward march of the entire country.
You’re just proving what the guy you responded to said.
Under democrats we got gay marriage, the repeal of don’t ask don’t tell, the affordable care act, net neutrality, other stuff I can’t think of at the moment, and instead of accepting slow progress the response is “you should have done that 40 years ago, I’m going to stay home because you’re not moving fast enough for me.”
On the other hand, republicans kept voting every fucking chance they had and after 50 years they got Roe overturned because those scraps add up eventually.
No gay marriage was the courts, and now may end up being removed like Roe v Wade.
On the other hand, republicans kept voting every fucking chance they had and after 50 years they got Roe overturned because those scraps add up eventually.
By actually doing a long term plan and doing absolutely anything needed to get it done.
No gay marriage was the courts, and now may end up being removed like Roe v Wade.
And who was it that appointed those judges?
So steps towards a goal from republicans are part of a long term plan to what they need, but from Democrats they’re half assed? Come on man. We were never going to get socialized medicine in one step.
The point here is that under Democrats there is progress. Would it be nice if it happened faster? Hell yes. But right now we’re racing backwards, and that sure as hell isn’t going to get us anywhere good unless you’re an accelerationist.
when in reality they’re walking hand in hand with people that are pushing us to absolute limit of barely acceptable and then dangling what they’ve known they should’ve done forever ago in front of us when we’re finally at our breaking point.
Please, talk to some ordinary Americans sometime. Some of the real, salt-of-the-earth types who regularly and reliably vote, and who make up the majority of the country.
You know, morons.
“The Dems aren’t going left enough fast enough!” is not generally the refrain, even from those who do vote Dem.
And when you ask them what performative outrage that is, their answer is generally less “They made minor economic concessions to the working class!” and more “They acknowledged that BROWN people and TRANS people have RIGHTS”
It’s actually, “the economic changes they made have no impact on me and instead seem targeted at minorities”
Chalk it up to a half-century of reactionary “welfare queen” propaganda, the truth is that democrats aren’t addressing the grievances of the working class and the Republicans are. Those grievances dont just go away if you stop talking about brown and trans people. Even if you’re willing to throw them under the bus - those voters will just vote for the person actually running them over.
Either democrats become as fascist as the Republicans, or they break through to those reactionary voters by proving that they’re willing to break some billionare kneecaps and make life better for everyone, not just the most visibly impoverished.
Democrats won’t, though. They’ll fight tooth and nail against the popular energy in their own base in order to keep their tenuous relationship with donors like Ackmann, and that will guarantee their loss.
And when you ask them what performative outrage that is, their answer is generally less “They made minor economic concessions to the working class!” and more “They acknowledged that BROWN people and TRANS people have RIGHTS”
Eh. I get what you’re saying, but so much of the disillusionment from the potential dem base is coming from their constant promises and constantly arriving at the obvious conclusion decades late and then acting like they’re the most progressive politician in human history. While in reality it’s a half step toward the policies we should’ve enacted forty years ago.
It’s not that people are like “so what.” It’s the deep seeded knowledge in all of us that the party will try to throw us crumbs and claim like they’ve always been on our side and are the most righteous policy makers that are saving us, when in reality they’re walking hand in hand with people that are pushing us to absolute limit of barely acceptable and then dangling what they’ve known they should’ve done forever ago in front of us when we’re finally at our breaking point.
They don’t care about us. They’re not beholden to us, and it shows. They’re beholden to money and are performatively throwing us scraps when they have an opponent so far right that it’s literally the threat of fascism. And they are very much responsible for the continued rightward march of the entire country.
You’re just proving what the guy you responded to said.
Under democrats we got gay marriage, the repeal of don’t ask don’t tell, the affordable care act, net neutrality, other stuff I can’t think of at the moment, and instead of accepting slow progress the response is “you should have done that 40 years ago, I’m going to stay home because you’re not moving fast enough for me.”
On the other hand, republicans kept voting every fucking chance they had and after 50 years they got Roe overturned because those scraps add up eventually.
No gay marriage was the courts, and now may end up being removed like Roe v Wade.
By actually doing a long term plan and doing absolutely anything needed to get it done.
With dems we get half solutions, like ACA.
And who was it that appointed those judges?
So steps towards a goal from republicans are part of a long term plan to what they need, but from Democrats they’re half assed? Come on man. We were never going to get socialized medicine in one step.
The point here is that under Democrats there is progress. Would it be nice if it happened faster? Hell yes. But right now we’re racing backwards, and that sure as hell isn’t going to get us anywhere good unless you’re an accelerationist.
GOP after dems thought they’d play nice or by the rules.
No the point is the dems refuse to long term plan or plan at all for when in power. That’s the issue.
Republican voters say the exact same things about Republican politicians.
They constantly talk about how conservative shitbags that waffled on this one thing are RINOs.
They make up conspiracies where Democrats are stopping their preferred solution even when Republicans control every branch of government.
They just have the votes.
It’s not understanding, it’s blind faith.
Please, talk to some ordinary Americans sometime. Some of the real, salt-of-the-earth types who regularly and reliably vote, and who make up the majority of the country.
You know, morons.
“The Dems aren’t going left enough fast enough!” is not generally the refrain, even from those who do vote Dem.
Of course not, that’s some commie shit.
The refrain is more like, “the dems don’t actually want to help us, they’re just distracting us with performative outrage”
And when you ask them what performative outrage that is, their answer is generally less “They made minor economic concessions to the working class!” and more “They acknowledged that BROWN people and TRANS people have RIGHTS”
It’s actually, “the economic changes they made have no impact on me and instead seem targeted at minorities”
Chalk it up to a half-century of reactionary “welfare queen” propaganda, the truth is that democrats aren’t addressing the grievances of the working class and the Republicans are. Those grievances dont just go away if you stop talking about brown and trans people. Even if you’re willing to throw them under the bus - those voters will just vote for the person actually running them over.
Either democrats become as fascist as the Republicans, or they break through to those reactionary voters by proving that they’re willing to break some billionare kneecaps and make life better for everyone, not just the most visibly impoverished.
Democrats won’t, though. They’ll fight tooth and nail against the popular energy in their own base in order to keep their tenuous relationship with donors like Ackmann, and that will guarantee their loss.
And when you ask them what performative outrage that is, their answer is generally less “They made minor economic concessions to the working class!” and more “They acknowledged that BROWN people and TRANS people have RIGHTS”