• ilillilillilillililli@lemmy.world
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    That orange dumbfuck said we just need to double electricity output so we can all keep vibe coding, spamming socials, and edging to deepfakes. 🙌

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    PJM has lost more than 5.6 net gigawatts in the last decade as power plants shut faster than new ones enter service, according to a PJM presentation filed with regulators this year. PJM added about 5 gigawatts of power-generating capacity in 2024, fewer than smaller grids in California and Texas. Meanwhile, data center demand is surging. By 2030, PJM expects 32 gigawatts of increased demand on its system, with all but two of those gigawatts coming from data centers.

    So this is a combination of utter mismanagement by the power companies, combined with growth in data center demand. Data centers are not purely AI. And I would expect that if PJM continues to be a basket case with exceptionally high prices those data centers will move elsewhere, or at least not get set up so more in those locations. Data centers generally don’t have to be located in specific places, by their nature. AI-specific ones in particular since the bandwidth required is a lot smaller than their processing power.

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      Recently, yes data centers are practically only AI. You could split hairs around training vs inference, colocation, whatever, but end of day it’s virtually all AI driven one way or another.

      Gigawatt scale plans across the industry, massive load growth forecasts, 4 year gas turbine timelines at the earliest, new nuclear not online until ~2032-35 at the earliest.

      The load growth crunch is real, and the power has to be delivered one way or another.

      Source: 10 years in the energy industry

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        Really, you think all existing uses of data centers stopped now that there’s AI in the mix? There may be specific facilities under construction that are intended primarily or solely for AI use, but all the existing demand is still there.

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      Mine started a program where instead of giving us money or discounts for smart products they now donate the money saved to those less fortunate. Motherfuckers, I’m the one who has seen my electric bill triple over the last 10 years and my salary is stagnant as my swamp ass right now.