• LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world
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    18 hours ago

    “Immigration matters are civil matters, meaning that immigrants – whether they are naturalized citizens or not – do not have the right to an attorney in such cases.”

    How can immigrantion matters be considered a civil matter if you criminalized someone’s immigration status?

    Example in Tennessee: "The legislation, criminalizing the act of being in Tennessee without legal immigration status, would come with both jail time and an eviction notice from the state. Judges would be required to issue 72-hour warnings to leave Tennessee to anyone charged or convicted of the crime.

    The first offense would be a misdemeanor, but would rise to a felony if someone is charged a second or subsequent time."

    That means Tennessees courts should immediately shoot that down as unconstitutional because it is a civil matter according to the federal government.

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      4 hours ago

      I guess the logic is that this is a civil matter, then the consequences of it are criminal. Still, seems silly.

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        4 hours ago

        How could consequences for a civil matter be criminal. Just sounds wonky to me. It would be like saying marriage is a civil matter, but if you get divorced or cheat on them them it’s criminal.

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          Because being here without citizenship could be criminal, so after the civil trial you have to do whatever needs to be done to stay or leave. It’s not instantly a criminal act, but the consequences could lead to criminal actions if you don’t make the changes required.

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        There isn’t much opposition in Tennessee, but Memphis and Nashville still exist. So you have Tennessee judges that have blocked their bills to ban drag shows, hemp products, ID’s for porn, and laws against transporting women in need of health services. They don’t always win long term but they don’t just let everything go through without a peep. I’m sure there are others I don’t remember, but it is always nice to see when they do block something.

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      17 hours ago

      How can immigrantion matters be considered a civil matter if you criminalized someone’s immigration status?

      Because you have a judge who rubber stamps your twisted legal reasoning. And you’ve got a liberal opposition that only knows how to shrug at fascism and deflect blame onto college leftists for not voting harder.