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If there’s anything “good” to come out of this (and I use that term very loosely), it’s that I’ve actually started seeing coverage of people starting to ask “The Supreme Court doesn’t have an enforcement mechanism. What will happen when Trump decides to ignore one of their rulings?”
Because eventually, that will happen. Either he’s going to feel emboldened or one of his morons is going to convince him to have a staredown with the Supreme Court. Then what?
And nobody really has an answer for that. Will Congress and our other branches of government at various levels side with Trump, essentially rendering the Supreme Court little more than an advisory branch without real power? What would that say for other rulings? Would state governments and agencies start siding with the Court and abiding by its ruling? What if Trump says he’ll pull funding from those agencies and go full “Saturday Night Massacre” on staff until someone agrees to withhold funding? Or if he just allows funding to go through and just fires the entire staff, leaving zero employees? I could keep going and going, but I’m sure you get the idea. Just so many questions, and all of them are scary.
And there are only three ways this could end:
The Republican party finally has enough of Trump and votes to remove him from office. But there’s also the fact that many in the party are actively in fear of their lives and won’t so much as publicly criticize Trump for fear of their safety, never mind vote to remove him. I would think everybody knows that I have a better chance of getting a blowie from every member of the cheerleading squad of every NFL football team in alphabetical order before that happens.
Those who are tasked with resisting are removed from their posts. Those who refuse to go willingly are escorted away by force. No legal or military action takes place to stop it as those who are in charge fear that ordering any police or military intervention would be perceived as a gross over-reaction to any individual firing, or not wanting to be the first to request military action, leading to violence and perhaps even full civil war. This fear would lead to a paralysis where other members of leadership are waiting for somebody else to make the call, ultimately leading to nobody doing anything. Opposing leadership continues to attempt to diffuse the situation with appeasement and essentially just starts handing power over to Trump piece by piece.
Civil War. Opposition leadership being removed from their posts would be unwilling to go voluntarily, and the DOJ would send in federal agents to escort them away in cuffs if necessary. If state leadership is lucky, either the state police, state’s national guard, or both recognize Trump’s multiple violations of the Constitution. With both sides having polar opposite goals and nobody with authority to be able to mediate over them, it can only end one way. Both sides aren’t going to stand there with their weapons drawn just staring each other down forever. From there, God only knows.
I have an answer for that, nothing happens, protests which are put down with the full might and force of the United States Armed Services Posse Commitatus be damned. That’s what happens. I mean, if anyone was at all confused about any of this, after Trump’s first go around, their brains weren’t fully formed, which is why the rest of us on the Left were aghast at all the people saying they weren’t going to vote for Kamala, we knew without a shaddow of doubt there’d be no Democracy left to vote for after he got to sit in the big chair ever again. And now it’s coming to pass.
For now, we’ll have to see how things go, but if Trump in this administration does things so badly that the Republican Party could risk losing seats to a third party, they’ll have to negotiate with the Democrats, negotiate with the third party, or make a radical change.
Also, if he does that, it could cause states to hold an amendment convention to add amendments that add, for example, an amendment that executive orders and federal laws cannot remove from the amendments. The presidential pardon will not work with the president and is not valid if he conspires against the government or the coup d’état.
This is reliant on an unreasonable amount of optimism, especially when you consider the direction things are going right now.
The country as a whole just took a hard shift to the right. Trump actively promised everything he is currently delivering, and even openly said he was going to make things harder on the poor. And our country as a whole stood up and said “Yes, I’d like more of that please.” Trump very well may make things harder on the Republican party base, but they will not blame Trump or his cronies. They will blame Biden. They will blame DEI. They will blame “Woke”. They will blame Kamala Harris. Hillary Clinton. Barack Obama. They will blame anybody but themselves, and they’re willing to make sure that no filthy Democrat ever gets into office again. Because it’s all their fault with their woke DEI hires like Kamala Harris dontchaknow? And if you don’t know, they’ll be sure to tell you.
The GOP do not look inward. They double down on the stupid. They blame “Them”. They never take responsibility. There is no situation where you’re going to make the GOP look left, and in many cases they’d be primaried if they tried. We have already learned the hard way that for every Republican nutjob already in Congress, there are 10 more ready, willing, and able to take their place who are 10 times as crazy.
And the absolute dead last thing you want right now is a Constitutional Convention. Republicans hold 28 states compared to Democrats’ 18. And many of those state governors and legislatures are firmly on board the Trump train. We can’t manage to ratify an Equal Rights Amendment that was passed by Congress back in 1972. Over 50 years ago. And you want any of these people holding a Constitutional Convention? Since Republicans would essentially be in control of the process since they have far more state governments, that would more likely lead to things like a national abortion ban and Trump being all but constitutionally enshrined as a King before it leads to any kind of reforms or restrictions on Trump’s behavior.
It’s quaint you think they’ll be any sort of election that could possibly see Trump’s MAGA party losing … literally anything ever again. It’s also fun that you think there are enough states to hold a Constitutional Convention. You are living in dreamland my friend, there was a choice, and we made it on November 6th, a binary choice between Democracy and Fascism, and not enough Democrats bothered to vote, and now, now it’s all over
If there’s anything “good” to come out of this (and I use that term very loosely), it’s that I’ve actually started seeing coverage of people starting to ask “The Supreme Court doesn’t have an enforcement mechanism. What will happen when Trump decides to ignore one of their rulings?”
Because eventually, that will happen. Either he’s going to feel emboldened or one of his morons is going to convince him to have a staredown with the Supreme Court. Then what?
And nobody really has an answer for that. Will Congress and our other branches of government at various levels side with Trump, essentially rendering the Supreme Court little more than an advisory branch without real power? What would that say for other rulings? Would state governments and agencies start siding with the Court and abiding by its ruling? What if Trump says he’ll pull funding from those agencies and go full “Saturday Night Massacre” on staff until someone agrees to withhold funding? Or if he just allows funding to go through and just fires the entire staff, leaving zero employees? I could keep going and going, but I’m sure you get the idea. Just so many questions, and all of them are scary.
And there are only three ways this could end:
The Republican party finally has enough of Trump and votes to remove him from office. But there’s also the fact that many in the party are actively in fear of their lives and won’t so much as publicly criticize Trump for fear of their safety, never mind vote to remove him. I would think everybody knows that I have a better chance of getting a blowie from every member of the cheerleading squad of every NFL football team in alphabetical order before that happens.
Those who are tasked with resisting are removed from their posts. Those who refuse to go willingly are escorted away by force. No legal or military action takes place to stop it as those who are in charge fear that ordering any police or military intervention would be perceived as a gross over-reaction to any individual firing, or not wanting to be the first to request military action, leading to violence and perhaps even full civil war. This fear would lead to a paralysis where other members of leadership are waiting for somebody else to make the call, ultimately leading to nobody doing anything. Opposing leadership continues to attempt to diffuse the situation with appeasement and essentially just starts handing power over to Trump piece by piece.
Civil War. Opposition leadership being removed from their posts would be unwilling to go voluntarily, and the DOJ would send in federal agents to escort them away in cuffs if necessary. If state leadership is lucky, either the state police, state’s national guard, or both recognize Trump’s multiple violations of the Constitution. With both sides having polar opposite goals and nobody with authority to be able to mediate over them, it can only end one way. Both sides aren’t going to stand there with their weapons drawn just staring each other down forever. From there, God only knows.
I have an answer for that, nothing happens, protests which are put down with the full might and force of the United States Armed Services Posse Commitatus be damned. That’s what happens. I mean, if anyone was at all confused about any of this, after Trump’s first go around, their brains weren’t fully formed, which is why the rest of us on the Left were aghast at all the people saying they weren’t going to vote for Kamala, we knew without a shaddow of doubt there’d be no Democracy left to vote for after he got to sit in the big chair ever again. And now it’s coming to pass.
For now, we’ll have to see how things go, but if Trump in this administration does things so badly that the Republican Party could risk losing seats to a third party, they’ll have to negotiate with the Democrats, negotiate with the third party, or make a radical change.
Also, if he does that, it could cause states to hold an amendment convention to add amendments that add, for example, an amendment that executive orders and federal laws cannot remove from the amendments. The presidential pardon will not work with the president and is not valid if he conspires against the government or the coup d’état.
This is reliant on an unreasonable amount of optimism, especially when you consider the direction things are going right now.
The country as a whole just took a hard shift to the right. Trump actively promised everything he is currently delivering, and even openly said he was going to make things harder on the poor. And our country as a whole stood up and said “Yes, I’d like more of that please.” Trump very well may make things harder on the Republican party base, but they will not blame Trump or his cronies. They will blame Biden. They will blame DEI. They will blame “Woke”. They will blame Kamala Harris. Hillary Clinton. Barack Obama. They will blame anybody but themselves, and they’re willing to make sure that no filthy Democrat ever gets into office again. Because it’s all their fault with their woke DEI hires like Kamala Harris dontchaknow? And if you don’t know, they’ll be sure to tell you.
The GOP do not look inward. They double down on the stupid. They blame “Them”. They never take responsibility. There is no situation where you’re going to make the GOP look left, and in many cases they’d be primaried if they tried. We have already learned the hard way that for every Republican nutjob already in Congress, there are 10 more ready, willing, and able to take their place who are 10 times as crazy.
And the absolute dead last thing you want right now is a Constitutional Convention. Republicans hold 28 states compared to Democrats’ 18. And many of those state governors and legislatures are firmly on board the Trump train. We can’t manage to ratify an Equal Rights Amendment that was passed by Congress back in 1972. Over 50 years ago. And you want any of these people holding a Constitutional Convention? Since Republicans would essentially be in control of the process since they have far more state governments, that would more likely lead to things like a national abortion ban and Trump being all but constitutionally enshrined as a King before it leads to any kind of reforms or restrictions on Trump’s behavior.
It’s quaint you think they’ll be any sort of election that could possibly see Trump’s MAGA party losing … literally anything ever again. It’s also fun that you think there are enough states to hold a Constitutional Convention. You are living in dreamland my friend, there was a choice, and we made it on November 6th, a binary choice between Democracy and Fascism, and not enough Democrats bothered to vote, and now, now it’s all over