I hear what you’re saying and see the point you’re overall trying to make; but please rework it so you’re not lumping “The Jews” into the actions of Israel
There are many Jewish people against the actions of Israel and abhor the thought of exterminating anyone/anything
I do agree with your last statement. I had a gossamer support of Israel which has radically changed in recent years. I see the current actions of Israel as no different than their oppressors
I take umbrage at some things too, but thats the internet for you.
Do you support the existence of a state of Israel?
Because I dont see how anyone can say they do but at the same time say they support universal human rights, or the basic membership any citizen has with their state. or be against war crimes. A lot of commenters here try to have it both ways and differentiate judaism from isarel for the sake of avoiding taboos, but to me that always smacks of a sort of dishonesty and avoiding an issue that is never going to simply evaporate or solve itself. That issue is the rot at the core of zionism that will keep israel evil. And last I checked 90% of Jewish people supported the existence of the state of israel. The rot in Israel written into the basic laws at this point. The foundation of the state is war crimes, and if we are honest about it, has been to one degree or another for 80 years. Israel has never been a viable state worthy of the name of “state”. So. Since you complained about differentaiting Judaism from Israel, Do you support the existence of the state of Israel?
Both NAZIs and Zionists claim to represent an entire ethnicity.
Both NAZIs and Zionists claim “their” ethnicity is inherently superior to others (“ubermenschen”, “God’s chosen people”)
Both NAZIs and Zionists react to criticism of their actions by saying the critics are discriminating against the ethnicity they claim to represent (“against the Arian Race”, “anti-semitic”)
Both NAZIs and Zionists openly call those belonging to the ethnicities they see as less than human “vermin”.
Both NAZIs and Zionists mass murder those of the “vermin” ethnicity with such extreme sociopathic violence that they’ll actually directly and purposefully murder children as a standard practice.
In both NAZI Germany and Zionist Israel it is common for roving bands of members of the dominant ethnicity to attack members of the “vermin” ethnicity whilst the police turns a blind eye or even activelly participates.
Both NAZIs and Zionists openly state that they want to get rid of the “vermin” ethnicity, including both using the expression “Final solution for the [vermin ethnicity] problem” to describe their plan to do so.
And don’t get me started on how the Propaganda techniques of both are incredibly similar and how if you grab most things said by Israeli politicians, replace “Jews” with “Arians” and “Muslims/Palestinians” with “Jews” you get something indistinguishable from NAZI statements.
IMHO, the only real difference between NAZI Germany and Zionist Israel is which ethinicities they deem “ubermenschen” and which they deem “untermenschen” and the historical symbol they have chosen to represent the. This is probably why most politicians in Germany - a nation which was never fully denazified - “unwaveringly support” Israel.
I wonder if the Palestinians will be doing their own genocide in the future, continuing the cycle. Happens throughout history. The Kurds used to do the fucking, now they’re getting fucked. Hutus and Tutsis. Serbs and Croats.
It’s hard to stop the cycle, but it can be done. Colonial projects are not the way to do it.
1940’s: Nazi Germany is the most evil country, trying to exterminate the Jews.
2020’s: Israel
and the Jewsare trying to exterminate multiple other groups.What’s the difference between Nazi Germany and Israel? They’re both evil fucks who deserves a slow and painful death.
Edit: i was angry and not thinking about what I wrote.
Yeah back in my day we hung war criminals.
I take umbrage at this statement:
I hear what you’re saying and see the point you’re overall trying to make; but please rework it so you’re not lumping “The Jews” into the actions of Israel
There are many Jewish people against the actions of Israel and abhor the thought of exterminating anyone/anything
I do agree with your last statement. I had a gossamer support of Israel which has radically changed in recent years. I see the current actions of Israel as no different than their oppressors
I 100% agree with you. I should never have written that, and have modified my post. Thanks for pointing it out!
I take umbrage at some things too, but thats the internet for you.
Do you support the existence of a state of Israel?
Because I dont see how anyone can say they do but at the same time say they support universal human rights, or the basic membership any citizen has with their state. or be against war crimes. A lot of commenters here try to have it both ways and differentiate judaism from isarel for the sake of avoiding taboos, but to me that always smacks of a sort of dishonesty and avoiding an issue that is never going to simply evaporate or solve itself. That issue is the rot at the core of zionism that will keep israel evil. And last I checked 90% of Jewish people supported the existence of the state of israel. The rot in Israel written into the basic laws at this point. The foundation of the state is war crimes, and if we are honest about it, has been to one degree or another for 80 years. Israel has never been a viable state worthy of the name of “state”. So. Since you complained about differentaiting Judaism from Israel, Do you support the existence of the state of Israel?
They allow a modicum of Arabs to become Israeli citizens and then claim they are being humanitarian.
Just like Trump and his 3 black friends: Herman Cain (dead), Ben Carson and Clarence Thomas (would have loved Epstein Island).
Both NAZIs and Zionists claim to represent an entire ethnicity.
Both NAZIs and Zionists claim “their” ethnicity is inherently superior to others (“ubermenschen”, “God’s chosen people”)
Both NAZIs and Zionists react to criticism of their actions by saying the critics are discriminating against the ethnicity they claim to represent (“against the Arian Race”, “anti-semitic”)
Both NAZIs and Zionists openly call those belonging to the ethnicities they see as less than human “vermin”.
Both NAZIs and Zionists mass murder those of the “vermin” ethnicity with such extreme sociopathic violence that they’ll actually directly and purposefully murder children as a standard practice.
In both NAZI Germany and Zionist Israel it is common for roving bands of members of the dominant ethnicity to attack members of the “vermin” ethnicity whilst the police turns a blind eye or even activelly participates.
Both NAZIs and Zionists openly state that they want to get rid of the “vermin” ethnicity, including both using the expression “Final solution for the [vermin ethnicity] problem” to describe their plan to do so.
And don’t get me started on how the Propaganda techniques of both are incredibly similar and how if you grab most things said by Israeli politicians, replace “Jews” with “Arians” and “Muslims/Palestinians” with “Jews” you get something indistinguishable from NAZI statements.
IMHO, the only real difference between NAZI Germany and Zionist Israel is which ethinicities they deem “ubermenschen” and which they deem “untermenschen” and the historical symbol they have chosen to represent the. This is probably why most politicians in Germany - a nation which was never fully denazified - “unwaveringly support” Israel.
Don’t forget Israel has been stealing land and occasionally sniping a random child from across the border for decades now.
Occasionally? I think they consider it a national sport at this point
Arming and radicalising traumatised people and setting them against people you don’t like is quite the American staple.
I wonder if the Palestinians will be doing their own genocide in the future, continuing the cycle. Happens throughout history. The Kurds used to do the fucking, now they’re getting fucked. Hutus and Tutsis. Serbs and Croats.
It’s hard to stop the cycle, but it can be done. Colonial projects are not the way to do it.