• Phoenixz@lemmy.ca
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    2 days ago

    I get what you’re saying but that definition of yours is lacking at best

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      2 days ago

      Terrorism, in its broadest sense, is the use of violence against non-combatants to achieve political or ideological aims.”

      So… no, I think I got it right. I mean, its root is from the Latin word- “terror”. A threat of death is sure to cause such a feeling in most people. So- in this form, the threat illustrates the act of one person terrorizing another. Therefore- one who terrorizes is a terrorist by definition.

      This is not a stretch to arrive at this conclusion. That it sounds foreign might be a result of the normalization of violence.

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        1 day ago

        Your previous comment left out the “to achieve political or ideological aims” part, which is the essential difference between terrorism and regular violence.

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          1 day ago

          “Ideological” pretty much covers everything else. A threat to kill is an act of terrorism.

          I think what’s happening here, is that murder has become so normalized that we have reached a point where the word “terrorism” has to have some special definition that excludes it from the regular run-of-the-mill terror one would experience when they’re life is threatened for whatever reason.

          I mean, would you feel terror if someone threatened your life in a way that you truly believed you were in danger?

          Oh, and she sung a song in Spanish, and was threatened with death for not singing in American English. That screams political to me…

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            16 hours ago

            “Ideological” pretty much covers everything else. A threat to kill is an act of terrorism.

            “Ideological” does not cover:

            • threatening to kill someone while robbing them
            • threatening to kill someone because you’re high off your gourd and hallucinating that they’re a space alien
            • threatening to kill someone because they fucked your wife
            • threatening to kill someone because they’re threatening you and you’re acting in retaliation or self defense.

            There are lots of situations in which a threat to kill is not terrorism. Quit trying to dilute the definition of terrorism.

            Oh, and she sung a song in Spanish, and was threatened with death for not singing in American English. That screams political to me…

            Okay, and…? I never disputed that this situation counted as terrorism; I only took issue with your overly-broad definition. In fact, it’s doubly weird that you’re choosing to die on this hill because you didn’t even need to go overboard making the definition wider than it is when the situation easily meets the real definition of it anyway! The guy you initially replied to was wrong and you would have been correct, except that you overstated your argument for no good reason.

            Words have meanings and you’re using one of them wrong. That’s all.